Growing similarities between the USSR and USA (As told to me by 2 former Soviets)

[Derpleton]

The US will turn into a Socialist European style country before its the USSR, the question then becomes what happens to the right wingers as the country drifts farther left.

[Nakura Chambers]

Because the solution would be a massive estate tax. Guess which party doesn't support that.

Seriously though, someone already payed taxes on that estate? Why should something be taxed twice? Seems like a cheap attempt to put a temporary band-aid on our reckless spending problem.

[Rukentuts]

Seriously though, someone already payed taxes on that estate? Why should something be taxed twice? Seems like a cheap attempt to put a temporary band-aid on our reckless spending problem.

So you're going to ignore Thomas Jefferson and Adam Smith, because you know more on the topic?

Money in the hands of the middle class drives the economy, this is a fact. Money is being horded in the top, this is also a fact.

[Nakura Chambers]

So you're going to ignore Thomas Jefferson and Adam Smith, because you know more on the topic?

You're the one who always says that the Founding Fathers aren't Gods.

Why do that when you can fix our taxation system and eliminate wasteful spending?

[Rukentuts]

You're the one who always says that the Founding Fathers aren't Gods.

Why do that when you can fix our taxation system and eliminate wasteful spending?

So you're completely ignoring basic economic principles for partisan rhetoric?

[Nakura Chambers]

So you're completely ignoring basic economic principles for partisan rhetoric?

I don't really care one way or the other about estate taxes. I'm just arguing the points. Having an estate tax won't even remotely fix our spending problem.

[Bigbamboozal]

I heard the popularity of hockey is on the rise as well in the USA, the time is nigh, friends!

Hockey was invented in Canada, get an education.

OT: no, there ARE some huge similarities. Because no matter where on earth you are, the scum at the top are scum, and the suckers at the bottom's life is cheap and inconsequential. Welcome to earth.

[Wildtree]

Democrats?

Republicans, last time I checked about it

Estate tax hits those the most that have the most expensive properties. Wealthy people have that.
Average people don't pay too dramatically high estate taxes. I live in a rural town in Iowa, I pay about $800.00 a year on property tax. Yet, 30 miles west, in Omaha, Nebraska, in neighborhoods of upper middle class the property tax is as high as 10.000 a year. And where the real rich like Warren Buffet live, it's even higher.

Hence, that tax is a natural enemy of the republican party.

[Rukentuts]

I don't really care one way or the other about estate taxes. I'm just arguing the points. Having an estate tax won't even remotely fix our spending problem.

Spending is a means of redistribution of wealth, which in this case is necessary to fix the economy. We can raise revenues and use these funds to repair our infrastructure. This puts money in the pockets of lower classes and in turn repairs the economy as well.

It's such a simple idea, but when you have a party that values a pledge to a lobbyist more than the nation, nothing will get done.

[Wildtree]

Hockey was invented in Canada, get an education.

Not what he meant at all. don't get snappy about it.

[Nakura Chambers]

Spending is a means of redistribution of wealth, which in this case is necessary to fix the economy. We can raise revenues and use these funds to repair our infrastructure. This puts money in the pockets of lower classes and in turn repairs the economy as well.

It's such a simple idea, but when you have a party that values a pledge to a lobbyist more than the nation, nothing will get done.

The state isn't supposed to give the lower (or upper for that matter) classes special treatment, it's suppose to treat everyone equally, no?

[Wildtree]

The state isn't supposed to give the lower (or upper for that matter) classes special treatment, it's suppose to treat everyone equally, no?

That can be argued....
The state should treat the lower classes definitely different. The goal should be to eliminate the lower class. From a strict investment point alone, the lower class needs to be funded to catch up. The ideal scenario would be if there wasn't a lower class at all, but just a middle class with slight differences.
There will always be a lower class, you may say now.. And that's true.. But that should not exceed the percentage of the upper class.
Then you have a super healthy economy and thriving society.

[Rukentuts]

The state isn't supposed to give the lower (or upper for that matter) classes special treatment, it's suppose to treat everyone equally, no?

Redistribution of wealth is a government function since the beginning of time, and by definition isn't equal. However, as our economy shows, it is necessary.

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

The implication that they will breach other parts of the bill of rights because of your perceived breaches of the others is exactly what a slippery slope is.

A slippery slope argument is not a fallacy unless there is no reasonable basis for which to assume that one will continue down said slope.

[PBitt]

Hockey was invented in Canada, get an education.

I hear reading comprehension is hardmode. Perhaps you should seek your own advice.

OT: You're right, there are *shocking* similarities. We breathe oxygen like they did, fart like they did and even have ate pancakes like they did. Holy shit, we're clearly becoming communists!

[Nakura Chambers]

That can be argued....
The state should treat the lower classes definitely different. The goal should be to eliminate the lower class. From a strict investment point alone, the lower class needs to be funded to catch up. The ideal scenario would be if there wasn't a lower class at all, but just a middle class with slight differences.
There will always be a lower class, you may say now.. And that's true.. But that should not exceed the percentage of the upper class.
Then you have a super healthy economy and thriving society.

In theory that might work, but it hasn't been working in reality. Instead the poor just get on welfare and drain the resources of hard-working people, while refusing to put any effort to improve their own social standing. Meanwhile that money we're giving to the poor has to come from somewhere; the people who actually work.

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In theory that might work, but it hasn't been working in reality. Instead the poor just get on welfare and drain the resources of hard-working people, while refusing to put any effort to improve their own social standing. Meanwhile that money we're giving to the poor has to come from somewhere; the people who actually work.

Neither is the current system.

[Rukentuts]

In theory that might work, but it hasn't been working in reality. Instead the poor just get on welfare and drain the resources of hard-working people, while refusing to put any effort to improve their own social standing.

This is a partisan myth. Please keep your responses based in reality.

[Elim Garak]

First they came for the communists,
and I thought it would be a slippery slope to assume that they will come for some other group.
Then they came for the socialists,
and I thought it would be a slippery slope to assume that they will come for another group.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I thought it would be a slippery slope to assume that they will come for me next.
Then they came for me,
and there were no slippery slopes left.

[Nakura Chambers]

This is a partisan myth. Please keep your responses based in reality.

Not really, I see it all the time. I try to avoid such people, but they're like leeches.