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  1. #621
    Quote Originally Posted by Beingbob View Post
    Other than legendaries and frost relics, what's the difference between having your loot specialization set to Frost versus Unholy? I seem to get all sorts of stats on my plate/accessories on either loot spec.
    That is the only difference. The loot specialization option is not capable of differentiating between secondary stat combinations on gear because at any given time, any piece of plate gear that is available (with any combination of secondaries) might be exactly what you need to properly balance your stats.

  2. #622
    For some reason i cant find detailed info on this anywhere.

    Assuming cleave fights - M+ mainly - when you are spamming scythe every gcd, should you still prioritise refreshing talons x3 over an extra scythe?
    If you have any kind of priority target, of course it makes sense to keep the talons up, but if you are just aoeing down the trash, wouldnt it make more sense to just spam scythe as much as you can, since 1 rune cost means you are usually gcd locked rather than rune locked...

    And since i run icecap with bracers, more scythes also means more pillar uptime

    Edit: bonus question. You have a large cleave pull in M+, and gou are at full runes. Do you dump your runes asap via oblit (to get pulse), and then keep them down with scythe, or do you ignore pulse completely and just spam scythe?

    So far ive been sticking with scythe spam on pulls of 4 or more, as it feels id get more benefit from extra scythes rather than pulse uptime, but im not sure.
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  3. #623
    Does Frost DKs scales well with gear? Thinking about rolling one.

  4. #624
    Frost never scaled well with gear. They always got band-aid buffs. Not sure if the next patch gonna change this and if so, that would be a first.

  5. #625
    I am kinda spoiled for being a Paladinmain but is there a List or a basic guideline about the worth of Relictraits (for Unholy)? Ideal would be something that says: "Darkest Crusade ~20ilvls , Plaquebearer ~5 etc".

  6. #626
    I just got the helm for frost that increases the damage of HB while enemies are affected by remorseless winter. From a purely M+ standpoint would it be better to drop frost scythe since it doesn't proc rime or is the 40% not worth it for that small window that RW is actually up

  7. #627
    Quote Originally Posted by Eskaron View Post
    I am kinda spoiled for being a Paladinmain but is there a List or a basic guideline about the worth of Relictraits (for Unholy)? Ideal would be something that says: "Darkest Crusade ~20ilvls , Plaquebearer ~5 etc".
    Does this help ? http://imgur.com/7gzoA0n (http://i.imgur.com/r6yQoDD.jpg is a guide how to read the chart)
    This was for frost. Here's the unholy's one : http://i.imgur.com/b9lz55u.png

  8. #628
    is there a weakaura that shows you the damage you took the last 5 sec.? or is that even possible? i would love to have something like that for tanking

  9. #629
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz View Post
    Does this help ? http://imgur.com/7gzoA0n (http://i.imgur.com/r6yQoDD.jpg is a guide how to read the chart)
    This was for frost. Here's the unholy's one : http://i.imgur.com/b9lz55u.png
    Yes, this works well. Thank you very much.

  10. #630
    What tier pieces are unholy dks looking for?

  11. #631
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imsupers View Post
    What tier pieces are unholy dks looking for?
    I would say, Cloak, Hands, and helm, since they all offer Mastery which directly compliments CS build, and versa isn't terrible either.

    The off piece, you would have to decide on, personally I would gain the best stats from the shoulders as a 4th piece

  12. #632
    Anyone else notice there dps go down after reset? I dunno I haven't changed anything and felt like my dmg was lower

  13. #633
    How is unholy doing right now in terms of RNG? Unholy was my first 110 but I rerolled before even ToV because I hated Castigator and the entire concept of festering and scourge strike removes/adding a random amount of wounds (and AoE dps being determined by whether or not my Abom decided to proc wounds on everything), and I was also salty about getting the terrible shoulders as my first leg + frost becoming the go-to.

    Now I see Clawing Shadows is the preferred talent, and Blizz has been making Death Coil more meaningful, so I'm wondering if I should go back.

  14. #634
    Quote Originally Posted by Beingbob View Post
    How is unholy doing right now in terms of RNG? Unholy was my first 110 but I rerolled before even ToV because I hated Castigator and the entire concept of festering and scourge strike removes/adding a random amount of wounds (and AoE dps being determined by whether or not my Abom decided to proc wounds on everything), and I was also salty about getting the terrible shoulders as my first leg + frost becoming the go-to.

    Now I see Clawing Shadows is the preferred talent, and Blizz has been making Death Coil more meaningful, so I'm wondering if I should go back.
    Tbh, even with CS you will have to play around wounds. It's just that CS is less RNG compared to castigator, so I guess you can always try. Thing is, there are classes with far worse RNG than this wounds ressource management. Hell, I'd even dare to say frost with belt may be even more random than unholy with their runes regen and rimes procs.

    Truth be told, I'm not sure to understand the hate about wounds. Just make a weak auras with runes and Voila.

  15. #635
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz View Post
    Tbh, even with CS you will have to play around wounds. It's just that CS is less RNG compared to castigator, so I guess you can always try. Thing is, there are classes with far worse RNG than this wounds ressource management. Hell, I'd even dare to say frost with belt may be even more random than unholy with their runes regen and rimes procs.

    Truth be told, I'm not sure to understand the hate about wounds. Just make a weak auras with runes and Voila.
    It's not just runes and single-target though - unless something has changed you also have considerable AoE RNG since your transformed ghoul with infected claws can put wounds on multiple targets that you can pop all at a time during DnD. But thanks, I don't think I'll be returning to my DK :/

  16. #636
    Quote Originally Posted by Beingbob View Post
    It's not just runes and single-target though - unless something has changed you also have considerable AoE RNG since your transformed ghoul with infected claws can put wounds on multiple targets that you can pop all at a time during DnD. But thanks, I don't think I'll be returning to my DK :/
    When you're doing DnD + CS, no matter how many wounds you put on the ennemies, you're already doing considerably a lot of damage. I don't know about you, but whenever I'm facing an AoE, the DPS is steady. There may be a difference of 10%, but the main damage is there : virulent plague + Clawing shadow. It's not like you're playing a rogue where Poison bomb is so much more RNG that could do the double of the dps.

    But hey, you don't seem to like it so it's perfectly fine. Just, please, don't blame it too much on the wounds because that'd be pretty stupid if you think it's what doing the DPS.

    I'm currently upping another char to lvl 110 (It's my 8th), and so far, believe it or not, UH seems to be one of the less RNG of all the classes I've ever played.

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    Are there sims out for UH in regards to Netherlight Crucible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmchellfire View Post
    I would say, Cloak, Hands, and helm, since they all offer Mastery which directly compliments CS build, and versa isn't terrible either.

    The off piece, you would have to decide on, personally I would gain the best stats from the shoulders as a 4th piece
    This slot is usually taken up by BiS legiondary shoulders. Legs should be last piece for set - and chest is usually Cold Heart also considered best with shoulders.

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    lol, that post was so old, and made loooooong before the patch where shoulders were BiS

    Things have obviously changed since January :lol:

  20. #640
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz View Post
    When you're doing DnD + CS, no matter how many wounds you put on the ennemies, you're already doing considerably a lot of damage. I don't know about you, but whenever I'm facing an AoE, the DPS is steady. There may be a difference of 10%, but the main damage is there : virulent plague + Clawing shadow. It's not like you're playing a rogue where Poison bomb is so much more RNG that could do the double of the dps.

    But hey, you don't seem to like it so it's perfectly fine. Just, please, don't blame it too much on the wounds because that'd be pretty stupid if you think it's what doing the DPS.

    I'm currently upping another char to lvl 110 (It's my 8th), and so far, believe it or not, UH seems to be one of the less RNG of all the classes I've ever played.
    Think it was considered one of the more rng based classes at launch. But now it feels really smooth.

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