Another new raid in 5.4???

[Deleted]

Garrosh is using Yshaarj's heart.

He's using it as a WEAPON.

He's not corrupted.

actually garrosh is corrupted by the Heart of Yshaarj.
however being corrupted doesnt mean its alway agianst someone's choice.
Garrosh becomes corrupted, but he chooses too become so by chasing down the powers of the Sha.
he already knew what the sha corruption would do from the story line in 5.1 , he just went along too find a way too corrupt himself and his orcs too become corrupted and wield that power without losing control. in which he succeeded.

[valax]

that's just the entrance of SoO we start at the vale fighting the elemental and the sha of pride then we move to orgrimmar after garrosh

[Skomoto]

Have people already forgotten that the first raid of this expac had 3 seperate "wings" each with a different entrance? Why would it be hard to understand that SoO would be the same and that it is just the entrance to the first part of the raid? Not really anything to speculate about if you just read updates as they are posted on MMO-Champ's homepage

[huth]

Have people already forgotten that the first raid of this expac had 3 seperate "wings" each with a different entrance? Why would it be hard to understand that SoO would be the same and that it is just the entrance to the first part of the raid? Not really anything to speculate about if you just read updates as they are posted on MMO-Champ's homepage

Er, no. It had 3 separate raids each with their own entrance. There's quite a bit of difference between the two, like separate lockouts.

Old Scarlet Monastery had multiple wings with separate entrances. All 4 instances where actually one big area.

[Jtree]

Have people already forgotten that the first raid of this expac had 3 seperate "wings" each with a different entrance? Why would it be hard to understand that SoO would be the same and that it is just the entrance to the first part of the raid? Not really anything to speculate about if you just read updates as they are posted on MMO-Champ's homepage

If I can argue semantics for a moment, the first tierhad three separate raids. The second and now third tier are single, huge raids.

It appears SoO will be like Dragonsoul: one entrance to a globe-hopping adventure.

[Totle]

If you look at the encounters, the first four bosses up to Sha of Pride are fought in the Vale.

Vale Water elemental
Golden Lotus
Titan Construct (Nooshuren, or w/e)
Sha of Pride.

Then we fly over to Ogrimmar.

Which I kind of like.

It'd be stupid to have the final raid of an expansion not be at least partially in the new continent.

[Derah]

Yes, currently it refers to ONE raid. But it might be possible that we still get a surprise from Blizzard and get a second 'not yet revealed' raid later. Remember that Blizzard told us that patch 5.4 will be the last patch before the next expansion. And that the next expansion will be probably annoucned at the Blizzcon in november.
If we get only 1 raid then that means that SoO has to cover like 4 or 5 months of gameplay assuming patch 5.4 gets released in august. And 4 or 5 months is a long time for one raid with the speed guilds clear the raids these days. So it's thinkable that Blizzard adds a second raid to fill in the gap.

No its not.

Small spoiler: If you don't wanna be spoiled then don't read below (Though its a really mild spoil anyways)

The fight starts in the vale of eternal blossoms. We kill a boss in the vale, before being teleported to orgrimmar for payback against garrosh. They had to do this because if the entrance for siege of orgrimmar is in durotar, it would be a PITA for alliance players to go there, having to fight players right next to their capitals.

Its just for gameplay convenience, just like for example Dragon Soul has its entrance on the caverns of time, even though you never travel to the future, all of it happens in the present, but it would be very awkard to put the portal to northrend. Same deal here, putting the portal to SoO in durotar or barrens is no viable. So they're putting it on the vale, you kill a boss on the vale, and then travel to orgrimmar.

[chrisisvacant]

yeah and those turned out well. Don't most people prefer instanced? blizz finally caving?

Uhhh, actually they turned out great.