They DID that. In Cataclysm. You did play the first 3 months of cata right? Where the forums were alight in casual player tears as they couldn't beat X and X boss in X and X instance (Vanessa Vancleef in Deadmines often filling those shoes). The dungeons did require a brain, and did require a thought process. And those that had brains and could have a legitimate thought were the ones that got volcanic stone drakes in the first month, or at the very least valor capped. Everyone else was thrown to the wolves in the streamlined horse shit they call LFD which is obviously not taking a leave any time soon.
Additionally, 5 mans rewarding current raid tier loot is just bonkers. Blizzard's raid focus is to get more people into raiding to justify the development teams hundreds of thousands of hours balancing, designing, making and fixing each and every raid. You're right in saying Heroic hasn't applied to 5 mans since TBC, but you'd be wrong in saying that's a bad thing. Leave the tedious, eccentric "need a second job and have all the skill in the world" to the heroic raiders and keep the casual in "heroic" 5 mans, normal, flex and lfr raids.
Additionally if you want to be 5 man exclusive, there are 5 mans out there to suit your needs. They are called challenge modes. You have to pull the instance perfectly and make sure you do it in perfect time. If that doesn't scream TBC challenge for you, then you're apart of the demographic Blizzard stopped catering to since 2007.
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If merit was the only dividing factor in the human race, then everyone on Earth would be pretty damn equal.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
Considering how 5 mans in Cata were for the most part endlessly bitched about and slammed it is absolutely absurd for you to be saying what you are saying. Are you really implying DS LFR was more challenging? Really? If you like challenging content go do challenge modes and stop whining about heroic 5 mans.
I liked cata dungeons but hated hour of twilight tbh...
Too bad there's no "why you keep playing" questions. It'd be nice if every time Blizzard THINKS they caught on what's bad in game according to all those leavers, they'd post an in-game poll to see how many people actually support this or think completely opposite.
Cataclysm start was very, very refreshing experience after LK zergfest. My wife joined late in Cataclysm and couldn't experience it because start dungeons were completely outgeared by then, but I told her to wait for next expansions start to see how dungeons are really supposed to be played. Imagine our both disappointment with "there will be no heroics, we'll simply slap same name on all 90s" shit.
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I don't get why the current dungeons aren't scaled up over time, raise the ilvl on the items, and they stay relevant. Right now, they aren't fun after the first few weeks, and people just run 4-5 to get into LFR.
The content is so trivial that no one does it for any length of time. Blizzard wants people to stay logged in? Stop making stuff that allows people to leapfrog everything.
The challenge in challenge modes isn't the difficulty of the content. It's trying to sprint through the thing chain-pulling without getting anything extra or making any mistakes. If all you want to do is clear them, even for bronze or silver times, it's only a little more difficult than your standard heroic dungeon.
I wouldn't say no one.
But they really REALLY need to add 5-man progression tiering. So that there are may be 8 5-mans that you can start gearing up with that give blues with more 5-mans later that give higher level loot but are tougher and then a final tier. All of them should be DIFFERENT 5-mans, not harder versions of the same 5-mans. And then challenge modes for ALL of them that give raid-level loot.
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I lmao everytime now i hear people say the heroics in cata were better. All it takes are new ones people like even less to make ones they thought sucked because they were way too hard before seem amazing now.