Patch 5.4 PTR - Build 17093

[Alhoon]

Until there's audio of Jaina talking about SoO being just a setback, she didn't die.

[Bashkar]

I assume the Lor'themar and Jaina thing is on a loss condition.

It'd be a waste to have built Jaina up just to kill her off in a raid. She's a character with a bit of conflict now, the story is more tense when she's involved. Prejudiced by both Theramore and the Divine Bell incident, she's a bit of a loose cannon now... or at least has the potential to be. Kalecgos and Varian can't always be there to talk her down. Never sure if she's going to go too far; makes her interesting.

Lor'themar, too, but for the opposite reason. Pushed even further into leadership of his people and has a torn allegiance from the horde. Assuming they don't just drop him, he has the opportunity to be a big player in the new horde.

[Deleted]

Yup, having death sounds for one might have implied something - but both of them having death sound files is too much, especially since one of Jaina's makes it sound like Wryn is dead - probably just failure conditions for the inevitable scenarios.

[Calamari]

Garrosh Audio = Every boring mediocre videogame villain

[Quotey]

Man, how do you have soundfiles/data on a patch that hasn't been rolled out yet, that's cheating. Is there a beta PTR?

[JoeShmo]

Blizzard very rarely actually kills off a prominent character (Kael, Bolvar, Hakkar, Nerzul, Danath, Old Gods, etc.) , let alone kill off a bunch of them at once.

Also,

Gamon for Warchief. Calling it.

[Nuvuk]

The death of nazgrim is gonna make me sad but at least Gamon so far hasnt been forced to fight for Garrosh.

[MrKnubbles]

Dang, the Orc Super Soldier looks sick!

[pyrostorm9001]

@ Jaina and Lor'themar sound files. Seeing a few posts about Jaina dieing, listen to Lor' he talks of blood... I bet at some point alliance fight with Jaina and Horde with Lor' and the sound files are just part of the quest/scenario failure speech. I dont see either of them dieing lore wise.

[Kithelle]

Luv the change to the frost mastery. Finally it will do something in PVE.

Umm, its a nerf if I understand...since both Fingers of Frost and Brain Freeze are supposed to act as if the target is frozen.

[Stilllogicz]

LOLOL clearly I meant another raid after Garrosh this expansion. Jerks.

[Zannypants]

Love the Siege Engineer

[theKarn]

Garrosh's final words.... They moved me so. His VA put all his passion into those lines. It make me harken back to when we first met him as a sad, broken, orc living beneath the shadow of his father's failures back in Nagrand.

R.I.P. crazy man.

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

I thought "Galakras" was Galakrond and was like: wtf o.O

[SodiumChloride]

Luv the change to the frost mastery. Finally it will do something in PVE.

So it will buffs FoF Ice Lance and BF Frostfire Bolt more now?

Not exactly sure what the new mastery will do.

If this goes live, tier 15's 4 piece bonus would be nigh indispensable.

[Thrall, son of Durotan]

I (and many others) have killed Gamon repeatetly, aaand now he's a war hero.
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[Deleted]

Icebound Fortitude no longer costs a Frost Rune.
About time, now just fix raise ally to be free (With a glyph or so)

[SodiumChloride]

Icebound Fortitude no longer costs a Frost Rune.
About time, now just fix raise ally to be free (With a glyph or so)

I want Summon Water Elemental as instant cast then. It's BS that it has a CD and a cast time.

[Bisso]

what's going on with Taunts? Is it in addition to get on top of threat meter? or is the whole taunting mechanic gone? wth?

[redmund]

what's going on with Taunts? Is it in addition to get on top of threat meter? or is the whole taunting mechanic gone? wth?

Read the full tooltip. This is an addition, to make tank swaps smoother.