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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Wrong, I posted a Q&A and the Q was will it be a weapon and the A was yes. Also your argument makes no sense, the LFR people are getting a legendary high ilevel cloak that is higher than heroic.



    I did the rogue legendary in 4.3, that was a joke and didn't take a year to do through an entire expansion. What about the people that killed illidan and it just dropped, are you saying that was more of a challenge then collecting all the crap for a year and doing quests and bgs and crafting etc?

    Pre-nerf Illidan was very challenging, and the drop rate on glaves as well as the chance for 2 x MH or OH was always present.

    To all the people complaining about the rewards, you're being handed several legendary item enhancements for little to no actual effort on top of a BiS well itemised cloak and you want more.

    Christ your parents should of disciplined you more, no wonder I dislike the majority of the WoW community.
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    [QUOTE=Shudder;21547601]Wrong, I posted a Q&A and the Q was will it be a weapon and the A was yes. Also your argument makes no sense, the LFR people are getting a legendary high ilevel cloak that is higher than heroic. QUOTE]

    "Comment From Jon: Will there be a final legendary weapon in mop? Or will we just get legendary power through many different items?
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    Oh hellz yeah. You're getting a glorious orange item. Wrathion is true to his word. "
    From the QA http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/957...l_25-4_23_2013

    Is that your comment by chance? because if it is i'd like to know exactly where you see him saying there will be a weapon. "Oh hellz yeah" can be considered a troll on his end and he's baiting you into thinking it will be what you think it is. "You're getting a glorious orange item" well sure we've gotten multiple of them and will be getting a cloak so he definitely wasn't wrong there.

    Also there is a massive difference between everyone getting a legendary cloak that's better than heroic drops and everyone getting a weapon. Considering a weapon would likely be 570+ ilvl you're not exactly thinking hard if you think a 615+ ilvl cloak is even comparable when weapon is by far the biggest increase in dps/healing there is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Wrong, I posted a Q&A and the Q was will it be a weapon and the A was yes. Also your argument makes no sense, the LFR people are getting a legendary high ilevel cloak that is higher than heroic.
    To be fair there, you're interpreting their answer as you like it. The question asked mentioned if it was going to be a weapon or many different items, and the answer was "yes, you're getting a glorious orange item". Keyword being item. He didn't say yes, it's a weapon. Just yes, you're getting an orange item. He was vague in his answer, yes. But that's what they always do, they don't give a direct answer, they avoid the main point of the question and say that indeed, you're getting a legendary, but never once did he say it was going to be a weapon. Yeah, I'd rather get a weapon too (although we don't know yet what the final Golden Lotus quest will award, but I doubt it'll be a weapon), but that's probably not what we're getting this time.
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    You people are never satisfied. This is the first expansion in which not just ONE class gets a legendary, but a legendary shared by all. YOU ALL GET LEGENDARY ITEMS - STOP COMPLAINING!

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Aziel View Post
    Pre-nerf Illidan was very challenging, and the drop rate on glaves as well as the chance for 2 x MH or OH was always present.

    To all the people complaining about the rewards, you're being handed several legendary item enhancements for little to no actual effort on top of a BiS well itemised cloak and you want more.

    Christ your parents should of disciplined you more, no wonder I dislike the majority of the WoW community.
    In case you didn't notice....the gleves have been 2(!!!!) legendary weapons...not just one. I think it was never ever easier to get 2 legendary weapons than in that expansion. =P

    What really sucks about current challenge is that it isn't equally challenging for all roles and classes. Some get it handed out with simple lfr equippment...and others have a seriously hard time and need lots of luck with ilevel520.
    Last edited by Pacster; 2013-06-23 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacster View Post
    In case you didn't notice....the gleves have been 2(!!!!) legendary weapons...not just one. I think it was never ever easier to get 2 legendary weapons than in that expansion. =P

    What really sucks about current challenge is that it isn't equally challenging for all roles and classes. Some get it handed out with simple lfr equippment...and others have a seriously hard time and need lots of luck with ilevel520.
    Rogue daggers in DS were a lot easier, took my guild months of farming to get a set of glaives, the daggers took a lot less time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Wrong, I posted a Q&A and the Q was will it be a weapon and the A was yes. Also your argument makes no sense, the LFR people are getting a legendary high ilevel cloak that is higher than heroic.



    I did the rogue legendary in 4.3, that was a joke and didn't take a year to do through an entire expansion. What about the people that killed illidan and it just dropped, are you saying that was more of a challenge then collecting all the crap for a year and doing quests and bgs and crafting etc?
    Like someone already said, pre-nerf Illidan was hard, drop rate sucked, many guilds broke cause they didn´t have anyone with warglaives in SWP to boost their dmg in fights like Brutalus.


    Even the Cata legendary were more restricted, in my 10 man guild, we made 2 staffs farming Heroic Firelands and 1 dagger. Took effort from a entire guild to kill the bosses. LFR is not effort. I have nothing against LFR, but you can´t give everyone in the game an unbalanced weapon, cause they did LFR. This cloak and the meta are more then enough. Meta itself is already too much OP, they should be nerfed.

  8. #28
    Legendaries are supposed to be cool looking and fun. A couple weeks ago I put on Thunderfury and tanked a heroic dungeon with it while my friend healed. It was fun, my other gear made up for it and the dps in the dungeon had a good laugh. I don't see myself in a couple of expansions saying to my friend, "Heal me while I wear the legendary cloak!!". They're not even cool looking. If they keep with the rule about not letting us transmog legendaries I will just be hiding my cloak. It's pretty sad that some will want to hide a legendary, or even want to transmog out of it. Even sadder that this will be the first ever expansion without a legendary weapon.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarM View Post
    What effort do you guys are talking about? All you need to do was do raids that you would do anyway.

    1 - Kill booses that you would kill anyway, take sigils.
    2- Take Valor points that you would take anyway to take valor gear and upgrades
    3- Kill bosses that you would kill anyway and take secrets
    4- Kill bosses that you would kill anyway and take runestones

    Bosses in any difficult, the only things in all questline that can be consider a "challenge", is the craft event and the spirit challenges for each role. AND they are a joke.
    http://www.wowhead.com/quest=32593/the-thunder-forge

    By that logic, all legendaries could be pretty effortless (besides the fact you couldn't do LFRs). I mean, Dragonwrath was just collection quests with some events that were a joke. Same with the daggers.

    And when the question is "are we getting a weapons" and the answer is "hellz yes," that means we're getting a weapon.

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    Worth every single lockout!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Legendaries are supposed to be cool looking and fun.
    Actually Legendaries are supposed to be incredibly rare and hard to obtain. Cool looking and fun perhaps but this is not the primary characteristic.

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    Who cares what it is, all i know is, that i'm bored with the quest chain, don't care about it in the slightest anymore, collect 10 of these 10 of those, collect one of these and after you're done go collect 20 of these little thingies but you're not doe, you have to collect 12 more of the other kind, and don't forget to bring me the special one in the end, but yeah like always you need 50 more of the shiny things.

    too much to collect, randomness, annoyance, boring no challenge at all.

    After two guildies beat me on obtaining the cloak, whilst I was done about a month sooner with the meta gem quest I lost all interest in this quest chain. Randomness made it unbearable for me, wouldn't complain if it actually required some effort, but to not see a drop of the 12 thingies for 4 weeks, was just retarded programming and bad game design.

  13. #33
    In terms of linkage between quest and instance content this expansion, I have to say that the whole Wrathion questline cinches it. There has been a depressing lack of raid-related questing since Wrath was first launched, so I am so glad to see raid quests make their return.

    My only qualm is that the final objective would be much more awesome if it were "0/1 Garrosh Hellscream's Head."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarM View Post
    What effort do you guys are talking about? All you need to do was do raids that you would do anyway.

    1 - Kill booses that you would kill anyway, take sigils.
    2- Take Valor points that you would take anyway to take valor gear and upgrades
    3- Kill bosses that you would kill anyway and take secrets
    4- Kill bosses that you would kill anyway and take runestones

    Bosses in any difficult, the only things in all questline that can be consider a "challenge", is the craft event and the spirit challenges for each role. AND they are a joke.
    What effort was there for shadowmourne? All you needed was a 25 guild and kill bosses in ICC no challenge at all..
    The hard part was getting blood infusion right after that it was just steamrolling through ICC for 2 months. Not to mention the difficulty of the rogue daggers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin84 View Post
    That may be so, but the point remains that we grinded 4 months or more of this "legendary" quest only to end up with an improved cloak really defeats the effort we put in.
    Well, I've "grinded" it too, and nothing about the grind was difficult at all. Not like the real legendarys of expansions past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Legendaries are supposed to be cool looking and fun. A couple weeks ago I put on Thunderfury and tanked a heroic dungeon with it while my friend healed. It was fun, my other gear made up for it and the dps in the dungeon had a good laugh. I don't see myself in a couple of expansions saying to my friend, "Heal me while I wear the legendary cloak!!". They're not even cool looking. If they keep with the rule about not letting us transmog legendaries I will just be hiding my cloak. It's pretty sad that some will want to hide a legendary, or even want to transmog out of it. Even sadder that this will be the first ever expansion without a legendary weapon.
    The Cloak isn't legendary yet tho (and it might not be at all), so many people keep calling it that for some reason. So maybe wait casting judgement on the "legendary" cloak until it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin84 View Post
    That may be so, but the point remains that we grinded 4 months or more of this "legendary" quest only to end up with an improved cloak really defeats the effort we put in.
    Yeah the "4 months or more" you probably spent in LFR rolling your face on the keyboard was really defeating the "effort" you put into it. *eyeroll*

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Jin84 View Post
    I'm just raising a point. Don't need to get all huffy about it.

    Some people may not think that way. It's just a high ilvl number, numbers don't mean anything when the next expansion rolls around. Sure you can keep it for the xmog, it beats all cloaks up till now, next to the Sunwell cloaks. What I was expecting is some proc item. It doesn't matter if the ilvl was just around normal t16. The proc is what keeps the item fun.

    So it comes down to which is better, Static or Proc.
    i've spent more time on this titan runestone quest than it took me to make a shadowmourne.

    all this time and people arent even getting a weapon? a cloak...really? yawn

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    I was already thinking of dropping the unbearably slow Legendary quest line. Now that I know its just a cloak I'm not going to bother. I mean really blizz, no weapon after all the time put into this awful questline. I have done every legendary questline during the expansion it was released since Shadowmourne. This is by far the most dull and pointless legendary quest grind ever. Good thing I canceled my account a couple of months ago, nothing about 5.4 is making me want to come back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kektonic View Post
    Yeah the "4 months or more" you probably spent in LFR rolling your face on the keyboard was really defeating the "effort" you put into it. *eyeroll*
    Yeah because doing ICC/Dragon Soul back in the day in normal mode over and over again wasn't any less faceroll.....by the time I got shadowmourne/daggers during wotlk/cata everyone was so geared we where basically facerolling though everything. Legendaries shouldn't have a "Your neckbeard must be this leet" requirement in order to aquire them. Who gives a shit if you spent 4 months facerolling LFR instead of 3 months facerolling through normals.
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    The tweet would actually imply that the CLOAK is the legendary, not a weapon. Given how MMO-Champion shows the order of the quest chain and the point where he states he has no more rewards for you.

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