Nobody really gives a shit about the whole dates on the achievement thing people want to stand out in terms of top tier raiders why do you think they do that? It's how you stand out that's the core thing here what no top tier raider is going to be like wtf he has storm end LETS GO CHECK THE DATE they don't do that lol they like looking all special most of the time.
Hence special snow flake is actually not exactly a degrading term as many as people think it is lol
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That's my point. If you cared, you'd have a date to reference. Otherwise, it's whatever.
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So it actually offends you that someone has the same pixels as you, yet they obtained them later? Pretty sad.
If you wanna stand out that badly, you have the date as a reference. If someone else actually cared about your achievements, they'd look it up. If "nobody gives a shit," then why are you complaining?
It's not sad It's how pride works for most people well I can't exactly speak for most top tier raiders as for myself I stopped caring for awhile since nobody will have title rather unlikely within the future generation of players.
Now as for newer people? They don't really get anything maybe the 100% heroic mount that's it really as I've stated before.
You still have the dates, which signify that you obtained the achievements at gear-level/when they were relevant/whatever. It's no different than having the title when everyone else doesn't.
As for newer people, they can get everything from most raids except for whatever Realm First! achievements/titles. They can still get the gear, most of the mounts, pets, etc. That's hardly "they don't really get anything."
Cheapened yet they still did that shit within the current expansion that's the entire point of it and honestly I really can't see how most top tier people WOULD WANNA check on the achievements I honestly can't believe that like really.
Anyways It's good to have a discussion with people not raging and be like HOLY FUCK YOU AREN'T SPECIAL GET OVA YO SELF WOOOOOOOO I haven't had one in awhile.
Devils advocate here a second...suppose you are in a guild...we'll call them <Bunnies go HoP>...and you really really like the people there, its a good atmosphere, raiding isnt what you guys are best at...but hey, you clear content before the next patch and thats what counts right? Now to get "title of the OP this patch" you need to do heroics...you like having cool sounding titles, but you dont want to ditch all your friends and the people you enjoy playing with to go to <Bunnies go Fuck You Bosses> to get it..so...do you leave the guild you in to get those titles? or do you eventually quit the game because you get frustrated at not being able to collect titles with guildies the next xpac as something to do on offnights because Blizz took them out to make a small % of people feel special? As a related sidenote, I got almost every title in the game, during the time it was relevant...
If they made titles able to get based solely on solo effort and skill, then by all means remove them at the end of a tier...as long as you need a solid group/guild to get them....keep em around imo
They still had to do mechanics and such that couldn't really be ignored in addition the fight was overly nerfed a bunch of times regardless lol my point it was still current content at that current time. Death's demise was just an example lets use another one Heroic Ragnaros.
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from what you said about Yogg in icc gear was "They still had to do mechanics and such that couldn't really be ignored"
Quite a few fights from cata you still have to do the mechanics.
Doing it at a higher level or doing it in gear from higher content is still Cheesing it.
Yeah but not truly breaking the dam fight would it now like completely ignoring every single thing out there people still wipe to it / still progress through the thing while in the next expansion X people can get it simply by completely overpowering it completely.
Example Heroic Ragnaros until the geyser nerf which was stupid but that's a different tale people in DS gear still wiped to that shit no matter if they were good or fucking terrible just fucking up a simple mechanic fucked you over.
Ive never gotten an end game title while it was current and i kind of agree with you. Getting the fire lord title should be about prestige and honor not zergging the boss. I think that starting in 5.4 flex mode titles should give a different title to normal/heroic that's considered lesser. Like instead of Kingslayer it would have been something different associated with killing the lich king in an easier difficulty. You can still rp but wont get the prestige you didn't earn. When a new expansion comes out, all titles from normal/heroic mode will be removed and the old flex mode title would fill its place so people still have titles to get, but the people who earned the harder titles get to be special.
Dunno about you, but that one was available while current on my server for 100k if memory serves me right. You didn't even need to read on tacts: just show up, pay and die on the spot.
The mere concept of deserving stuff more than others is revolting to say the least. To each their sense of acomplishment, I guess.
I use the heroic tier title for as long as the tier is current then swap to hand of a'dal or champion of ulduar for the start of next tier. Being able to overpower titles removes all prestige from them until you end up with Twilight Vanqisher. (One of the most common titles in the game as of now).
I'm fine with them not removing the titles as patches go on. I have my hand of a'dal, other people don't. If someone's using storms end in 5.4 and they don't have the cutting edge feat, then good on them for needing to outgear the content by 30ilvls, I'm sure the title will serve them well.
People are quitting the game over titles? I think that's a bit absurd lol. I think the point is, if the new guild sucks, why not join another guild that does harder content too? That's what a lot of people do. Also, this next patch they are pretty much making the glory mount easily attainable, between LFR and flex raid, gear will be easier then ever to get...... how much more do you want? Seriously, think about it this way, if RFC started giving a title for clearing it that had something cool like "Bloody Destroyer", but it was still just a bunch of lvl 15 mobs... don't you agree that the title gets watered down? What's so different with this case?