Yays, a new one! The other one was getting old and confusing with stuff from the ptr.
The old one was full of people yelling at each other with very little to no useful information or constructive discussion going on...not quite sure a new one was warranted.
Closing this thread, you already have a thread on this topic - you're welcome to talk about 5.4 in it - I'll change the title if you like - but I'd rather not spam the first page with threads on the same topic.