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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoketh View Post
    I think there should still be epic gems, but they need to change the way they work.

    Traditionally they are just higher stats to their rare gem cousins, and yes, they throw off the balance of other profession perks, so why do they have to be stats?
    Why couldn't they be the same stats as the rare gems, but have procs on them? For example, the rare delicate gems have 160 agi, why couldn't the epic delicate gems have 160 agi and a chance to grant 1000 AP for 5 seconds on a successful attack?
    Or have a set bonus (ie 2 gems give you +100 of your highest stat)?
    Or have class specific bonuses (Rogue: Epic gem gives you 160 agility and increases Rupture duration by 2 seconds).

    Do any of the above, make them unique-equipped, and the problem is solved (even JC only gems won't be useless)!

    With so many options on the table, it seems silly to me that epic gems have to be removed because no one could figure out a better way to keep them in the game. Epic gems having static stats are the problem, not the gems themselves.
    Interesting take on gems, but I'm going to assume it would be a nightmare to balance. Might be interestign if they want to spice up JC at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevegasm View Post
    Ever since they introduced profession bonuses in Wrath, when epic gems came out, they increased the amount of all profession bonuses accordingly as it gave blacksmiths an advantage. But still, epic gems were a pain to deal with anyway.
    They did that in wrath.

    They did NOT do it in Cata. Many ppl were not very pleased.
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  3. #23
    still hoping they make it in

  4. #24
    been wondering about this myself!

  5. #25
    Flex mode and above should drop them as trash drops like from Sunwell imo.

  6. #26
    Epic Gems aren't needed. Anyone with half a brain cell towards stat balancing can tell you, the extra say 20-40 of a given stat per gem, even when you spread it across the like 12+ sockets you have, is only what... 240-480 more stat points. Even if we went crazy and said they were worth +80 for Str/Agi/Int, or +160 for Secondary (on a pure gem, not a split), that is still only +960 Primary or +1920 Secondary (and let's face it, it will be a mix, cause you'll still gem for most/all socket bonuses). When you got like 18,000-20,000 of your main stat, and 26,000+ spread across your secondary stats... it is an infinitely small drop in the bucket that is not worth the time to develop a fair delivery mechanism for. (Do note, the stats of 18k-20k and 26k+ are taken from my ilevel 524 LFR Geared Ret Paladin, so assume higher in cases of Normal+ raiding currently, not to mention the appropriately higher ilevels of SoO).

    Not to mention, it upsets the balance on both Jewelcrafting (making their self-only gems worse, bad enough as it is that they only give +50% on secondary stats, instead of +100% like on primary stats) and Blacksmithing (making their profession bonus scale even higher), which in turns make Blacksmithing OP, Jewelcrafting weak, and everything else better than JC but still weaker than BS, which while it didn't affect alot of players in Cata, it did impact some players. It would serve the community better to just leave the blue gems for the masses, the epic cuts are JC only (through Serpent's Eyes), and everything just stays as it is. No point upsetting the balance now.

    Blizzard got their goal of wanting people to gem to match sockets right now, nearly every socket gets matched for, cause the bonus IS worth it. Epic gems could skew that horribly.
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  7. #27
    I personally hope they won't bring back epic gems. Blue gems are just fine.. and do we really need something that screws with the profession bonus balance?

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