Brothels - Yes or No?

[someotherguy]

Definitely, i'd like to lose my virginity somewhere! I'm friggin 27 and there is no legal place to do it (without finding gf), i'm not ugly, fat or anything, so i say it's hard for introverts that spend work and play time behind computer to get laid, so hell yeah, i do want brothels!
Some street prostitute might have something, but certified brothel would definitely have some health standards!

If you have money, you could go on vacation to a country where it is legal. I believe it doesn't cost a lot, obviously make sure you're safe.

I don't know why it's illegal. There are women who marry men to just get out of their countries. Instead of marrying, they might prefer to trade in sex for a while, and build up money and move on to other things. They are right now selling themselves to one man, there is no one around to protect them, if they complain they will probably end up being back in their country. A brothel could provide protection. I don't think having relations with many men is better for a woman than one man, but there's more financial and physical security working at some place.

I don't think I'd want to go and be with a woman who's had more partners that day than I had ever ... so I don't think everyone automatically would run to brothels.

[RicardoZ]

I say no, but only in principle. Our society is already geared toward the lowest common denominator anyway, so the social and legal stigma of paying for sex (or being paid for sex) being removed probably isn't going to push it over the edge at this point, it'll just be the next step towards our becoming another third world sludge pit that is governed by its genitals.

[THE Bigzoman]

Sure. I really don't see a problem of two consenting adults making a deal.

[Velaniz]

Of course it ought to be legal.

The main reason is because it shouldn't be illegal for two consenting adults to make an arrangement amongst themselves that doesn't affect others. This rests on principles of freedom of expression/bodily autonomy. And you also have the fact that if it is legally carried out, it can be done in a way to make it less harmful to all parties involved, in terms of preventing the spread of STDs, etc.

[Raptor With a Saber]

Humans like every other animal on earth has sex. Humans are one of a small handful that have it for pleasure. So yes i think brothels should be legal in every state since it's just natural.

[Dremordian]

Better clean and regulated then diseased and pimped.

[MMKing]

Thinking it would have little effect here in the west.

The vast majority of prostitutes in Europe 1st world countries.
- Are not from the country in which they work.
- Rarely speak the language, sometimes English, not always.
- Are working for a pimp as ''slave''.

The local women/men who do this sort of business.
- some don't want the world to know, and their identities would be impossible to keep a secret.
- Some don't really want to do it. They are often driven by a real need for cash (as in, get money or drop out on education, drugs or house/apartment).

The customers
- Some don't want the world to know. Discretion between two people is allot easier than if we had a building dedicated to this kind of business.


At the end of the day, a brothel would only benefit the few who would openly work and the few who would openly buy.

[Babzu]

For the power rush im assuming.

Or some people are just sick in the head.

...no im pretty sure because someone is horny.

[araine]

Legal taxed and regulated.

[TheBeardedOne]

Not trying to pick apart your experience here but I do have a few thoughts in regards to this

1) this is how a brothel in actually could/should/would run. And it's not cheap. $400 an hour is really very expensive. Most people looking to get laid or just blown don't want to spend that kind of money, thus, as you mentioned there is also illegal venues and as thus, I'd assume less sanitary, less health checks, etc.... Just because one brothel checks out to be good doesn't equate to all being clean and well run.
2) I lol'ed when you said the woman had a successful career outside of her work there. You realize she's a professional right? She gets paid to make your fantasy come true. Thus having a woman who pretends to want to have sex with you is more attractive as someone who doesn't need to be there to pay the bills. Not saying she doesn't have work outside of the brothel, just that it's unlikely. And that's not a bad thing, it just is what it is

1- im sure a lot of cheap nasty places exist that don't health check etc.. but i have never been to one of those and have no plans to, but i do think they should be cracked down on for dodgy practices. You also pay for what you get in terms of looks and services.
2- She actually worked for a company i used to work(this freaked me out at first, but then i realised it would do her more damage than me if found out not that its going to happen) and new things about it/dealing with certain customers only someone high up would know (similar to my job there previously), but i am sure you are right that a lot do lie to make the client feel better, but who cares at the end of their day if it is their only income, more power to them

[Anjerith]

Yes. It keeps the rapists out of trouble, because they don't have to rape someone to fullfil their needs.

This is flawed, unless you have no hands - in which case I suppose rape would be a potential option, assuming you could somehow catch someone with no hands.

[Mormolyce]

I feel like it's ridiculous that in a civilised progressive society we're still debating about whether it's okay to tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies on the basis that society as a whole has decided that it's "immoral".

Currently brothels are just a front for same abuse that has been going on for ages. I am against them, because they exploit the most vaulnable.

Don't judge all brothels by the standards of sex slavers. That's like judging all knife owners by the standards of serial killers.

[Elegiac]

This is flawed, unless you have no hands - in which case I suppose rape would be a potential option, assuming you could somehow catch someone with no hands.

Funnily enough, it may not be. Although it is a correlation, the rate of sexual assault has actually markedly decreased since pornography became widely available over the internet in 1993. Similarly, prisons which have attempted to distribute pornography to their inmates have seen rates of sexual violence in prisoners decrease.

[Cybran]

I don't know why it's illegal. There are women who marry men to just get out of their countries. Instead of marrying, they might prefer to trade in sex for a while, and build up money and move on to other things. They are right now selling themselves to one man, there is no one around to protect them, if they complain they will probably end up being back in their country. A brothel could provide protection. I don't think having relations with many men is better for a woman than one man, but there's more financial and physical security working at some place.

So you see nothing wrong with exploiting the women in such difficult situations? Currently brothels don't offer any protection to these women. They are still raped, beaten and robbed on a daily basis. Making it legal will just increase the demand and fuel more abuse and exploitation.

Don't judge all brothels by the standards of sex slavers. That's like judging all knife owners by the standards of serial killers.

It's not just one. There are hundreds of such places all across the world. Making them legal would make us complicit.

[Elegiac]

So you see nothing wrong with exploiting the women in such difficult situations? Currently brothels don't offer any protection to these women. They are still raped, beaten and robbed on a daily basis. Making it legal will just increase the demand and fuel more abuse and exploitation.

How exactly can a government help regulate the brothels to make sure such abuses don't happen when they are illegal in the first place? If you ban something, you can't regulate it.

[TheBeardedOne]

So you see nothing wrong with exploiting the women in such difficult situations? Currently brothels don't offer any protection to these women. They are still raped, beaten and robbed on a daily basis. Making it legal will just increase the demand and fuel more abuse and exploitation.

You got some proof for this? Plenty of properly run brothels the women protection and care is the number one priority

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It's not just one. There are hundreds of such places all across the world. Making them legal would make us complicit.

if they are legal it allows the girls to go to the authority without fear of punishment themselves, hell you could use the revenue raised from the legit places to pay to get rid of the rest of the dodgy non law abiding ones and regulate it properly with regular inspections

[Mormolyce]

So you see nothing wrong with exploiting the women in such difficult situations? Currently brothels don't offer any protection to these women. They are still raped, beaten and robbed on a daily basis. Making it legal will just increase the demand and fuel more abuse and exploitation.

It's not just one. There are hundreds of such places all across the world. Making them legal would make us complicit.

I put it to you that having brothels out in the open where they can be subject to regulation would do a lot more to help the situation than letting it stay in the shadows. Because clearly that's not working right now.

[Cybran]

if they are legal it allows the girls to go to the authority without fear of punishment themselves, hell you could use the revenue raised from the legit places to pay to get rid of the rest of the dodgy non law abiding ones and regulate it properly with regular inspections

People here keep say "If", but the reality looks very different from your theoretical wishful thinking.

[Elegiac]

People here keep say "If", but the reality looks very different from your theoretical wishful thinking.

The reality is that many nations - some, not all - who have legalized prostitution have been able to take significant steps to stamping out undesirable practices in the sex trade. Similar to those that have legalized drugs.

[Oktoberfest]

Nobody should have any business telling someone who they can have sex with or what their motivation is. Its stupid. Alot of morality laws should be tossed