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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    I don't care that it's a cloak, I do care that some RNG favoured git LFR hero will be sporting this cloak when they do not need nor deserve it. Lucky on drops, LFR raids only, 600 ilvl legendary? Mind boggling really. I think legendaries should be a heroic only venture and have for the longest time but apparently devs don't feel that way. At the very least heroic raiders shouldn't have any RNG to deal with, all the crap they need should be 100% from heroic bosses, and LFR drop rates need to be under 5%. I say this as someone who raided heroic content in wrath and cata but is currently not raiding in MoP.
    umad? i think u need to chill out

  2. #282
    Can all of you shut the fuck up?

    Legendaries were NEVER LEGENDARY

    "Legendaries were a status symbol, They meant something"

    Really? Considering most of them were RNG drops anyway? That meant you farmed the same raids for months on end? Let's see.

    Sulfuras
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=17182

    So, What we have here, Is RNG random drops, a shit ton of mats, And more RNG drops. To form a mace made out of RNG.

    Thunderfury
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=19019

    Yet again, More random RNG drops from bosses that you have to farm for MONTHS on end. And a long questline for more RNG drops.

    Warglaives
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=32837

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Thor'dal
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=34334

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Val'anyr
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=46017

    Nothing but farming the same bosses over and over again for months on end, which equates to RNG drops

    Shadowmounre
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=49623

    Nothing but farming bosses over and over again for months on end, Not quite as RNG as some peices ALWAYS dropped.

    Dragonwrath
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=71086

    Again, Nothing but farming bosses over and over and over again for months on end, Again not quite as RNG because you always got something at least.

    Golad and Tiriosh
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77949
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77950

    Again, Farming DS Bosses for months on end for fragments from bosses, still not quite as RNG as you always got some per boss.


    Legendaries were NEVER FUCKING SPECIAL. Okay? Sorry your special little snowflake has melted. Get the fuck over it
    Last edited by Malcor; 2013-07-09 at 12:33 AM.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by hitandruntactic View Post
    I don't care that it's a cloak, I do care that some RNG favoured git LFR hero will be sporting this cloak when they do not need nor deserve it. Lucky on drops, LFR raids only, 600 ilvl legendary? Mind boggling really. I think legendaries should be a heroic only venture and have for the longest time but apparently devs don't feel that way. At the very least heroic raiders shouldn't have any RNG to deal with, all the crap they need should be 100% from heroic bosses, and LFR drop rates need to be under 5%. I say this as someone who raided heroic content in wrath and cata but is currently not raiding in MoP.
    Heroics aren't hard. The only difference between LFR and Heroics is the bosses are tuned down so teamwork is less of a focus. In Heroics, you need 10/25 people who know how what to do at the right time. Individuals knowing what to do isn't difficulty.

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    Mandatory item is mandatory, won't matter in any way once all things are said and done

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    There's a legendary item this expansion? I guess you can see my opinion from that post.

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    Perfectly OK with it. Although I'm curious to see what else there is to it since they have strongly implied that it's not just the cloak.
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  7. #287
    As it has been said before and will be said again...

    People who don't think the Legendaries in Vanilla and TBC were "legendary" clearly did not play (more than likely) or attempt to raid during those times, because seeing the 1-2 people with a legendary on a high pop server while they were current content felt pretty legendary.

    They may look like RNG drops today when you go back and faceroll level 70 raids, but back then those raids were extremely difficult and most people could not complete BT or SWP (or come even close) until it was nerfed in 3.0. That's the difference in those legendaries than the ones now. They may have been "omg RNG lol" but when only a literal handful of guilds are actually clearing the content because of its difficulty, it has little to do with RNG.

    As far as this expansion, since they are giving the legendary out to anyone who has been paying Blizzard $15 a month since MoP came out, I am fairly happy with what it turned out to be, although I do hope they can improve the look of cloaks in the near future since most players won't be displaying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcor View Post
    Can all of you shut the fuck up?

    Legendaries were NEVER LEGENDARY

    "Legendaries were a status symbol, They meant something"

    Really? Considering most of them were RNG drops anyway? That meant you farmed the same raids for months on end? Let's see.

    Sulfuras
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=17182

    So, What we have here, Is RNG random drops, a shit ton of mats, And more RNG drops. To form a mace made out of RNG.

    Thunderfury
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=19019

    Yet again, More random RNG drops from bosses that you have to farm for MONTHS on end. And a long questline for more RNG drops.

    Warglaives
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=32837

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Thor'dal
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=34334

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Val'anyr
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=46017

    Nothing but farming the same bosses over and over again for months on end, which equates to RNG drops

    Shadowmounre
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=49623

    Nothing but farming bosses over and over again for months on end, Not quite as RNG as some peices ALWAYS dropped.

    Dragonwrath
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=71086

    Again, Nothing but farming bosses over and over and over again for months on end, Again not quite as RNG because you always got something at least.

    Golad and Tiriosh
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77949
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77950

    Again, Farming DS Bosses for months on end for fragments from bosses, still not quite as RNG as you always got some per boss.


    Legendaries were NEVER FUCKING SPECIAL. Okay? Sorry your special little snowflake has melted. Get the fuck over it

    Pretty much this. People have this warped sense of entitlement and this haze of stupidity on what exactly a legendary item is.

    In my eyes a Legendary is a slightly better item than epic that you have to do a lot of work and/or grinding to get over a period of time. The manner in which you obtain the item doesn't mean shit honestly. Never has in WoW and never will.

    Who gives a shit if billy joe fucking jimbo has the legendary as well. Chances are most people WONT get the legendary because either:

    - most don't want to farm LFR for the stupid collecting quest items (which eliminates a vast majority of the "raiding community" from participation in the legendary questline)
    or
    - most don't like the final reward or don't think it's worth the trouble.

    So people really need to chill out.
    Butts.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Malcor View Post
    Can all of you shut the fuck up?

    Legendaries were NEVER LEGENDARY

    "Legendaries were a status symbol, They meant something"

    Really? Considering most of them were RNG drops anyway? That meant you farmed the same raids for months on end? Let's see.

    Sulfuras
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=17182

    So, What we have here, Is RNG random drops, a shit ton of mats, And more RNG drops. To form a mace made out of RNG.

    Thunderfury
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=19019

    Yet again, More random RNG drops from bosses that you have to farm for MONTHS on end. And a long questline for more RNG drops.

    Warglaives
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=32837

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Thor'dal
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=34334

    Nothing but a pure RNG drop

    Val'anyr
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=46017

    Nothing but farming the same bosses over and over again for months on end, which equates to RNG drops

    Shadowmounre
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=49623

    Nothing but farming bosses over and over again for months on end, Not quite as RNG as some peices ALWAYS dropped.

    Dragonwrath
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=71086

    Again, Nothing but farming bosses over and over and over again for months on end, Again not quite as RNG because you always got something at least.

    Golad and Tiriosh
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77949
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=77950

    Again, Farming DS Bosses for months on end for fragments from bosses, still not quite as RNG as you always got some per boss.


    Legendaries were NEVER FUCKING SPECIAL. Okay? Sorry your special little snowflake has melted. Get the fuck over it
    Quoted for fucking truth lol

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    Last edited by Darsithis; 2013-07-09 at 04:57 AM.

  10. #290
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    A cloak? La-de-freakin da! Doesn't seem very legendary to me.

  11. #291
    Legendaries were never special is BS. Tell me about all the people you saw with Warglaives and the Bow in BC. Thought so.
    Them being an RNG drop means nothing when you consider their droprate and who they were dropping from. If you got them from 5 mans you might have a point, but not when it's from Illidan.
    Last edited by Dormie; 2013-07-09 at 01:10 AM.

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    cape is a stupid idea, should have been a weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon138 View Post
    Legendaries were never special is BS. Tell me about all the people you saw with Warglaives and the Bow in BC. Thought so.
    Them being an RNG drop means nothing when you consider their droprate and who they were dropping from. If you got them from 5 mans you might have a point, but not when it's from Illidan.
    Rare =/= special

    Getting them was pure luck and having loads of free time. No, there's nothing special about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth1400 View Post
    Cloak is one of the few items you can hide on a character, that doesn't exactly scream "core visual piece of gear" to me. I'm overwhelmed honestly. Not only is it a cloak, but it's obtainable by everyone for very little effort. I guess the meaning of legendary is going the way of epic.
    The cloak is one of the most visual and noticeable pieces of gear on your character. Having the possibility of hiding it doesn't change that, combined with the fact that very few people hide their cloaks.
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  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Tzalix View Post
    Rare =/= special

    Getting them was pure luck and having loads of free time. No, there's nothing special about it.
    Uh, rare DOES mean special. Rare things are considered special IRL. How else do you make something special in game? Cause the Legendaries now sure as hell aren't special.

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    Not really it was far to easy to get.
    Id much prefer a legendary that was much harder to get and almost required winning the lottery.
    Even if that made it so I never obtained one.
    Always been more the journey rather than the goal to me, and especially so in wow.

    With the current system its just;
    Oo shiney -> ah thx shiny stuff -> now what
    /meh
    /do other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon138 View Post
    Uh, rare DOES mean special. Rare things are considered special IRL. How else do you make something special in game? Cause the Legendaries now sure as hell aren't special.
    Rare stuff irl is special because it costs a shitload of money.

    Rare stuff as in you just have to be lucky to get it? Nothing special about it.

    You make something special in-game by making it take long-lasting dedication and effort to get your hands on. Which is what we're seeing more and more of.
    "In life, I was raised to hate the undead. Trained to destroy them. When I became Forsaken, I hated myself most of all. But now I see it is the Alliance that fosters this malice. The human kingdoms shun their former brothers and sisters because we remind them what's lurking beneath the facade of flesh. It's time to end their cycle of hatred. The Alliance deserves to fall." - Lilian Voss

  17. #297
    While I did like the whole premise of going through a long series of quests/ raids to attain the final reward, I do think the whole concept of a Legendary item has been eroded now with everyone getting one. Maybe it would have worked out better as a better-than-raid-lvl epic?

    Yes, everyone wants to see content. But 'Legendary' should refer to something prestigious and rare as well as powerful. Before any one even begins to accuse me of being elitist, I've never gotten one Legendary before and am completely fine with not having the item. What I did mind was not being involved in the quests.

  18. #298
    Let's put it this way; I have 5 characters at 90. ONE of them is getting the cloak, I'm not doing this chain again. I also know several people who have given up and won't be finishing.

    when I see someone with the cloak, I know exactly how much time and effort they put into it (NEVER DOING THE WRATHION FIGHT AGAIN EVERRRRRR). They didn't just get a lucky drop from a boss 20 levels under them.

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    Haha no. is that even a question. Never have legendary's been an armor slot item, except for that molten core POS neck piece. Legendary's are legendary because of how awesome they look, and making weapons outa that gives it an unlimited possibility of exception. But with the story line behind it, and the suspence of the black princes story line, it kinda turns out to add up. Why would a mere mortal (the black prince) be able to give out the best weapons in the game so far. I liked out a boss could drop it, it made me wanna do that more. Add more Legendary boss drops blizz!!!

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    Those cloaks heavily make me remember asia grind mmos (MU Online anyone? http://images.mmorpg.com/images/scre...line/11975.jpg)
    Its funny cause its in line with the rng grind to get them

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