What's your ideal 10man raid comp?

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Title says is all, what's your ideal 10man raid comp? (for the purposes of the question ignore the players behind the toon - assume that you've got 10 people of equal skill that could play anything to an equal standard).

[Spotnick]

Brewmaster Tank
Prot Paladin
Rogue
Warrior DPS
Warlock
Boomkin
Hunter
Elemental Shaman
Disc Priest
Holy Paladin

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Something like:

Prot Paladin
Brewmaster

Mage
Lock
Druid
Monk
Shaman
Priest
Rogue
Huntard/Lock

[Trubo]

Tanks - Protection Paladin + Brewmaster Monk
Healers - Discipline Priest + Restoration Druid
DPS - Elemental Shaman (could OS heal) + Assassination Rogue + Fury Warrior + Warlock + Mage + whatever (pretty sure all buffs are covered with the 9 listed)

2-3 people per item for the most part

[Raioku]

Brewmaster / Prot Paladin
Disc Priest / Holy Pally
Fire Mage / Demo Lock / Boomkin (off spec heals) / Ele Sham / Rogue / UH DK

[Rorixis]

Brew/Wind Monk (swaps when pala solos)
Prot Paladin

Ret/Holy Pala for double bop

Disc Priest
Mist/rdruid/balance (if ret is main then mist, if holy is main then druid swaps on fights)

Mage
Lock
Hunter
Elemental Shaman
Rogue/DK/Warrior

hunter fills attack speed or phys vuln

[Skinkfoot]

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[Dracodraco]

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Is the "strongest" raidcomp for 10 man I have been able to come up with.
All loot utilised:
Cloth-spirit for disc.
Cloth-hit for lock.
Leather int for boomkin.
Leather agil for rogue.
Mail int for shaman.
Mail agil for hunter.
Plate int for hpally.
Plate crit for warrior.
Plate haste for paladin tank.
Plate tank for DK.

Rogues use 1h weapons, hunters use guns - only polearms will be "wasted" weapon-wise.
2H str wep used by DK. 1H str wep used by Pally. Warrior can use whatever drops most.
Tier tokens are "evenly" spread - 4x Conq, 3x vanq, 3x prot (ideal world would be 4x vanq or prot instead of conq, I guess).
The Elemental and Boomkin will both be able to keep a resto spec at-hand using their "normal" gear if a boss requires 3 healers, and either of them switching will not cost the raid any raidbuffs. So dependant on what is stronger (resto druid or resto shaman, or boomkin or ele shaman) you can pick and choose.
Only 2x melee dps (preference put on ranged as they are stronger).
Decent multi-dot capabilities (lock, boomkin, surv hunter).

Only the Hunter brings no raid cooldowns. In this setup, you have:
Disc CD's.
Healthstones/portals from lock.
Tranq from boomkin.
Smokebomb from rogue.
AG/HTT from Shaman.
Rallying cry+banners from Warrior.
AMZ from DK.
Devo aura from the paladins.
Giving you far more "power" on your raid CD's than most raids.


That being said, with this setup you CAN substitute the rogue for a Feral Druid. The hunter would then switch to an atk speed pet, as the druid brings crit instead of haste. You'd utilise polearms, but lose 1H's, and gain tranq but lose smoke bomb. I prefer to "give the spot" to a rogue as they feel more valueable than ferals, though.

Anyone been able to come up with something better?

Note: Inb4 people whine that some of the classes are "underpowered" compared to others - class balance is subject to change every tier (and even midway through). If you were to build a strong raiding team, you would be focusing more on the logistics than getting as many mages and warlocks as possible, just to be majorly fucked over next tier when they're nerfed.

[Moshots]

For progression

brewmaster
paly tank

Disc priest
holy paly

Rogue
Hunter
warlock
Ele shaman
Boomkin
Mage

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http://raidcomp.mmo-champion.com/?c=...00000000000000

Is the "strongest" raidcomp for 10 man I have been able to come up with.
All loot utilised:
Cloth-spirit for disc.
Cloth-hit for lock.
Leather int for boomkin.
Leather agil for rogue.
Mail int for shaman.
Mail agil for hunter.
Plate int for hpally.
Plate crit for warrior.
Plate haste for paladin tank.
Plate tank for DK.

Rogues use 1h weapons, hunters use guns - only polearms will be "wasted" weapon-wise.
2H str wep used by DK. 1H str wep used by Pally. Warrior can use whatever drops most.
Tier tokens are "evenly" spread - 4x Conq, 3x vanq, 3x prot (ideal world would be 4x vanq or prot instead of conq, I guess).
The Elemental and Boomkin will both be able to keep a resto spec at-hand using their "normal" gear if a boss requires 3 healers, and either of them switching will not cost the raid any raidbuffs. So dependant on what is stronger (resto druid or resto shaman, or boomkin or ele shaman) you can pick and choose.
Only 2x melee dps (preference put on ranged as they are stronger).
Decent multi-dot capabilities (lock, boomkin, surv hunter).

Only the Hunter brings no raid cooldowns. In this setup, you have:
Disc CD's.
Healthstones/portals from lock.
Tranq from boomkin.
Smokebomb from rogue.
AG/HTT from Shaman.
Rallying cry+banners from Warrior.
AMZ from DK.
Devo aura from the paladins.
Giving you far more "power" on your raid CD's than most raids.


That being said, with this setup you CAN substitute the rogue for a Feral Druid. The hunter would then switch to an atk speed pet, as the druid brings crit instead of haste. You'd utilise polearms, but lose 1H's, and gain tranq but lose smoke bomb. I prefer to "give the spot" to a rogue as they feel more valueable than ferals, though.

Anyone been able to come up with something better?

Note: Inb4 people whine that some of the classes are "underpowered" compared to others - class balance is subject to change every tier (and even midway through). If you were to build a strong raiding team, you would be focusing more on the logistics than getting as many mages and warlocks as possible, just to be majorly fucked over next tier when they're nerfed.

It's pretty good. No real kiting ability from the tanks though, and only one heroism. Also lack of movement HPS. I'd probably swap the boomkin to resto druid, and the holy paladin for a mage. (4 vanq instead of 4 conq). Holy paladins bring zero utility that the prot cannot bring.

[Mormolyce]

10 Blood DKS

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It's pretty good. No real kiting ability from the tanks though, and only one heroism. Also lack of movement HPS. I'd probably swap the boomkin to resto druid, and the holy paladin for a mage. (4 vanq instead of 4 conq). Holy paladins bring zero utility that the prot cannot bring.

While you are correct with the movement HPS and utility parts it feels like disc/resto is a kinda weak healing comp if you need a way to react to unexpected damage (i.e. screwing up with the mechanincs) quickly. Once you learn the timers absorb mechanics are way better than the hot/direct healing ones, and you can abuse bop in a lot of fights this expansion. So from a healing point of view i think disc/hpala is a stronger comp.
On the other side the amount of utility a druid can bring to a raid is probably the highest, tranq is still one of the best healing CDs and some the symbiosis spells are very useful.

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While you are correct with the movement HPS and utility parts it feels like disc/resto is a kinda weak healing comp if you need a way to react to unexpected damage (i.e. screwing up with the mechanincs) quickly. Once you learn the timers absorb mechanics are way better than the hot/direct healing ones, and you can abuse bop in a lot of fights this expansion. So from a healing point of view i think disc/hpala is a stronger comp.
On the other side the amount of utility a druid can bring to a raid is probably the highest, tranq is still one of the best healing CDs and some the symbiosis spells are very useful.

Holydins have been gutted to hell and back next patch. Anywhere where people are spread, they'll be struggling badly. I mentioned druid due to overall utility, symbi, runny thing, and an ability to do more raw output. I'd have said monk, but druid utility is just over the top. + Burst aoe healing is +++

[Inthislzon]

BrM/prot
MW/disc/Holydin (MW and disc can both DPS while healing to add another "DPS" should it be needed)
mage/lock/ele shaman/hunter/rogue

[Viromand]

Prot
Druid/monk (offspec heal/dps)

Disc/Pala

Moonkin(OS heal)
Warlock
rouge/DK
warrior
Elemental
mage/hunter

I think this will make the perfect comp, with a pala tank it doesnt really matter that much if you have a Monk or druid tank. druid monk is also good but kinda sucks on the loot part. Overall the best tank setup is the seutp with play best with each other.

Still the best comp says nothing if you have 10players of good quality it can be any kind the reason why guilds dont progress that good or break apart is because raids are canceled or you ahve to take randoms cause some püeople are missing.

On the melee part. Warriors with banner and shout are really strong for dps and cooldown wise.

caster: I think boomkin (and if you take a guardian) you have two hotw tranq which help alot on fights and a restro druid will be really good as OS spec iin 5.4. Usually alot of current fights can be two healed and would only need a third for certain parts of the fight. Same goes for elemental shaman.
WL speaks for himself. The only part is hunter or mage, both are very strong, so taking either one doesnt really make a big difference.

With this setup you also have alot of Offspec potential.

[Deleted]

Prot Paladin - Brewmaster Monk
Warrior DPS - Rogue DPS
Hunter - Warlock - Mage - Elemental Shaman
Disc Priest - Holy Paladin/Mistweaver Monk

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10 competent people

Rogue / Paladin tank / Pala healer / Elemental Shaman / Warlock ........ rest can draw straws

[Deleted]

Prot Paladin
Blood DK

Holy Paladin
Disc Priest
Mistweaver Monk

Rogue
Warlock
Mage
Balance
Ele Shaman


Great aoe. Great CC. Solid healing CDs and a good mixed loot table. Perfecto mundo

[icausewipes]

10 Blood DKS

You must know our raid tank.

My ideal raid would be:

Tank - Druid War
DPS - Enhance shammy, Demo lock, MM hunter, Sub rogue, Arms war, Ret
Healer - Holy Priest, MW monk

[lordsphinx]

It's funny nobody here would take a resto shaman. I know that by sheer numbers they fall behind, but I'll tell ya... since I recruited one I have no idea how I raided without one. I swear a time never comes when he doesn't have a cooldown of some sort available, and the mana battery is amazing. Also, no other healer can top a low health target up as quickly as a resto shammy.

In my opinion, it's not big numbers all the time that matter, it's big numbers when you need them.