Item Squish Confirmed

[Marksman12]

"Tencent: How will you deal with bigger and bigger numbers in the next expansion？ I think it is time to do something with it.
Ghostcrawler: We have considered this problem and we will reduce players' stats in the next expansion."

I am so excited they finally manned up and decided to push this through. What number range do you guys think they will be reduced to? BC, Nilla, Wotlk? I am personally hoping for BC numbers.

Also, for people who are afraid of this conflicting with soloing content, it wont. The squish scales EVERYTHING down in game, so we will still be able to solo content like we are currently now.

[Gimlix]

How will this work with old content btw?
Will they Squish that too, or will we have to group up again for those, i don't mind either options.

[Lime]

Don't they say this every expansion?

[Deleted]

Don't they say this every expansion?

No? I have never read that they will reduce the numbers.

[Marksman12]

Don't they say this every expansion?

No, they said it was possible for MoP; but this time its confirmed.

Also, yes when i say EVERYTHING i mean everything; all old content will be scaled down also.

[rinleezwins]

Don't they say this every expansion?

It only came up shortly before MoP.

I don't really see any problem with squishing old content, just cut the zeros on damage and healthpools as well as on everything else...

[Yarathir]

How will this work with old content btw?
Will they Squish that too, or will we have to group up again for those, i don't mind either options.

Some people want to think they'll decrease player power and thus kill soloing.


I say that's a waste of time and Blizzard could never realistically do that due to the backlash. Even if they did, it'd be like the RealID fiasco where the rage is too big and it'd have to be reverted.


I say, just a certain percentage across the board so everything is weaker while the player power remains exactly the same.

[Gimlix]

No, they said it was possible for MoP; but this time its confirmed.

Also, yes when i say EVERYTHING i mean everything; all old content will be scaled down also.

Also the monsters of level 1?
Like the wolfs will have like 10 HP instead and everyone at level 1 will damage 1 and crit 2? =P

[Lime]

It only came up shortly before MoP.

I could've sworn they said this before Cataclysm was released too. Maybe they were just thinking about it then too.

[Baladash]

No? I have never read that they will reduce the numbers.

they WERE thinking of it for Mists but decided against it. They explained that they were going to squish EVERYTHING so older content will still be solo able but will likely take a bit more skill as the gap between 60-70 (for example) will be smaller.

IIRC I read somewhere that they were still in the consideration for item squish for next xpac but it could be old or out of date news.

[Gimlix]

Some people want to think they'll decrease player power and thus kill soloing.


I say that's a waste of time and Blizzard could never realistically do that due to the backlash. Even if they did, it'd be like the RealID fiasco where the rage is too big and it'd have to be reverted.


I say, just a certain percentage across the board so everything is weaker while the player power remains exactly the same.

Well would be nice if we had to group up again for old content and hard elite quests, those that require 4 pple instead of 1 =/
But time will tell ^^

[zoefschildpad]

link to the source?

[Deleted]

If they do the item squish I will not buy the next expansion .

Voting with the wallet is the only thing that can make them understand.

Too many un necesary changes in the game , they already went too far.

Well would be nice if we had to group up again for old content and hard elite quests, those that require 4 pple instead of 1 =/
But time will tell ^^

Would be horrible . So you won't be able to solo what you already can ... Eventualy need to bring other 4 people to /roll against you when the 1% Ashes of Alar drop...


A reason to avoid paying them money for a subscription.

[Effbee]

Also take into account that the "support class/role" answer has already been qualified by GC in a follow up Tweet, mainly due to language/translation errors.

As alluded to on the front page, the use of the word "will" is a bit up for debate and GC could very well have said "It might/may/could be in the next expansion.

People reacting both ways should keep this in mind

[Marksman12]

everything will be scaled down; I dont know why people think it will kill soloing. We will still be able to solo content as easily as we do now, just the numbers are smaller.

[Deleted]

link to the source?

This - without I dont belive you....

[SL1200]

What was wrong with the other thread? Squish bad.

[orioxez]

Don't they say this every expansion?

Edit- Also concerned about how this will affect old content...

One of my favorite things to do is solo old content.

So I'm against this.

There's nothing about an item squish that requires old content get more difficult. It simply means making numbers all around smaller. Player power relative to all present content will remain the same, the only thing changing is the numbers.

[Jediguy]

It's about time. I'm not sure exactly how they'll do it, but it could be as simple as cutting all numeric values by 90%. It'll still take as many whacks to kill things, but the numbers will be easier to manage.

[Marksman12]

link to the source?

Front page.