5.4 Enh PVE ?

Deleted · 2013-08-22, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Nikkosyia

I dunno. I kinda of like the amount of Burst Enhance has and can sustain... Some of the highest I've seen so far with 5.4, exception to Mage burst.

http://i.imgur.com/mAkfDeJ.jpg

Not sure what you're trying to prove with that screenshot ;s That dps / burst? is low even for PTR standards.

**wordup** · 2013-08-22, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Nikkosyia

I dunno. I kinda of like the amount of Burst Enhance has and can sustain... Some of the highest I've seen so far with 5.4, exception to Mage burst.

http://i.imgur.com/mAkfDeJ.jpg

If it's PvP, dummies don't have player resilience. If it's PvE, that burst is a joke compared to live, I burst 500k+ on dummies on live comfortably, in PvP, there's nothing shown by this, as I've said, there's no resilience damage reduction.

Deleted · 2013-08-22, 11:50 AM

So Enhance still gemming Haste haste or agi haste?

**skiierx131** · 2013-08-22, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Lavindar

Yep Fire Nova spreading Flame Shock would be a lot better IMO, the biggest problem is the 10 seconds on Lava Lash, 10 seconds is more than most of AoE durations anyway.

I want this.

**jayinjersey** · 2013-08-22, 02:17 PM

If they allow the Nova to hit the Target as well...that would alleviate some of our single target woes too.

Granted it now gives us another GCD we have to hit...but I'll take anything I can get at this point.

**skiierx131** · 2013-08-22, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by caballitomalo

Reading all this talk about AoE got me thinking and I wanted to ask this. For those using the legendary cloak (which is a big % of people) isn´t that an AoE boost?

Just wondering, last time I read the cloak proc was some sort of cleave ability.

Maybe they are balancing around that.

Dunno, just a thought.

Rogues get the same cloak aoe proc we do, and they already out aoe us.

**bob0001** · 2013-08-23, 09:14 AM

Fire nova spreading flame shock would be perfect, but it is not an easy fix to implement in the time remaining. Not just the code but also the number tweaking as your basically getting a DK's glyphed blood boil.
Lava Lash spreading flameshock to an increased number of adds would be a lot easier to implement and reduce the ramp up.
Still clunky as hell but its better then nothing.
This close to the patch I would take LL spreading FS to 1-2 extra adds but would prefer double the number.

**Nikkosyia** · 2013-08-23, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by bob0001

Fire nova spreading flame shock would be perfect, but it is not an easy fix to implement in the time remaining. Not just the code but also the number tweaking as your basically getting a DK's glyphed blood boil.
Lava Lash spreading flameshock to an increased number of adds would be a lot easier to implement and reduce the ramp up.
Still clunky as hell but its better then nothing.
This close to the patch I would take LL spreading FS to 1-2 extra adds but would prefer double the number.

I just wish they could isolate and fix the bug that causes LavaLash to sometimes not spread Flameshock to targets... Doesn't happen a lot, but it often enough to bug me.

**bob0001** · 2013-08-23, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Nikkosyia

I just wish they could isolate and fix the bug that causes LavaLash to sometimes not spread Flameshock to targets... Doesn't happen a lot, but it often enough to bug me.

I found you need to wait an extra gcd before hitting LL when the adds spawn or are pulled.
So jikun adds, they spawn, cast fs, then SS and then LL. if you dont put in the SS the FS will fail to spread every time.

Deleted · 2013-08-23, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Nikkosyia

I just wish they could isolate and fix the bug that causes LavaLash to sometimes not spread Flameshock to targets... Doesn't happen a lot, but it often enough to bug me.

If you solo old content you'll notice it a lot more...since it always happens when you kill a mob with LL (the shock never spreads due to some kind of delay between LL hitting and the FS spreading), hence why we're the only dps spec in the game that can't handle adds with low hp.

But as always, it has nothing to do with new content or pvp so it won't get fixed. (like the ascendance cancellation bug which has been there since beta)

**Lavindar** · 2013-08-23, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Staticus

If you solo old content you'll notice it a lot more...since it always happens when you kill a mob with LL (the shock never spreads due to some kind of delay between LL hitting and the FS spreading), hence why we're the only dps spec in the game that can't handle adds with low hp.

But as always, it has nothing to do with new content or pvp so it won't get fixed. (like the ascendance cancellation bug which has been there since beta)

Yep, almost always when you kill a mob with Lava Lash it will fail to spread Flame Shock, and what is this Ascendence cancellation bug?

**Raiju** · 2013-08-23, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lavindar

Yep, almost always when you kill a mob with Lava Lash it will fail to spread Flame Shock, and what is this Ascendence cancellation bug?

not being able to cancel it, say if you want to mount up or something you just gotta wait.

**Lavindar** · 2013-08-23, 11:35 PM

Oh that, I was worried I never see it canceling mid Ascendence, I guess I never saw it because I don't PvP and theres not any situation in PvE where you dont use the full duration.

Deleted · 2013-08-24, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Raiju

not being able to cancel it, say if you want to mount up or something you just gotta wait.

Yeah this is surely the biggest concern ingame. Not being able to mount up for 15 sec after casting Ascendance.

And why should i cast Ascendance if i want to mount up directly after?

**Raiju** · 2013-08-24, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Klatar

Yeah this is surely the biggest concern ingame. Not being able to mount up for 15 sec after casting Ascendance.

And why should i cast Ascendance if i want to mount up directly after?

It's a bug that would take all of 5 minutes to look at (and likely fix), if the fix wasn't that fast it can be put on hold.

I also dislike when people who seem to *only* raid comment about things as if they're the only people who play this game. We get QoL fixes and changes all the time across classes, this isn't any different. Just because it isn't an issue to your precious dps doesn't mean it isn't of importance to some players. I'm not even saying it has to be fixed - just explaining what the issue is.

**Advent** · 2013-08-24, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Raiju

It's a bug that would take all of 5 minutes to look at (and likely fix), if the fix wasn't that fast it can be put on hold.

I also dislike when people who seem to *only* raid comment about things as if they're the only people who play this game. We get QoL fixes and changes all the time across classes, this isn't any different. Just because it isn't an issue to your precious dps doesn't mean it isn't of importance to some players. I'm not even saying it has to be fixed - just explaining what the issue is.