Outland revamp confirmed at Blizzcon 2010 for the Future

[Shuji V2]

Outlands doesn't need to be updated imo. I'm fine with it as it is and houses plenty of great memories. I also don't understand why people have a problem with Outland questing. For me, when I finally get out of Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor, I'm so happy to move on with Outlands. But then because the experience is gained so extremely fast I rarely stay in Outlands longer than a day so I annoy the shit out of myself for having to do WotLK and Cata.

Personally they shouldn't have remodeled the old content to begin with, but that's me. I miss how the old design used to be. I always used to quest in Ashenvale because it was such an awesome and big zone. Ever since the remodel I have never been there and I wouldn't really know how it looks just so I can preserve my old memories of it.

[Deleted]

Idk what the point would be. I sort of understood the reasoning with Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdom, but all that time spent on making TBC amazing would be wasted if they just destroyed the zone.

Considering Cata was a massive failure, they've probably dropped it.

The zones wouldn't have to change too much. Just so it's not so jarring for new players who go through cataclysm and then go through the shitfest that is tbc, and a lesser extent wrath.

[Harmzuay]

Cataclysm was only a "failure" with respect to end-game content. If they could bring something like MoP and combine it with an Outland revamp or exploration of other areas of Outland (we haven't seen it all), I think they'd do it in a heartbeat.

[Deleted]

Outlands doesn't need to be updated imo. I'm fine with it as it is and houses plenty of great memories. I also don't understand why people have a problem with Outland questing. For me, when I finally get out of Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor, I'm so happy to move on with Outlands. But then because the experience is gained so extremely fast I rarely stay in Outlands longer than a day so I annoy the shit out of myself for having to do WotLK and Cata.

Personally they shouldn't have remodeled the old content to begin with, but that's me. I miss how the old design used to be. I always used to quest in Ashenvale because it was such an awesome and big zone. Ever since the remodel I have never been there and I wouldn't really know how it looks just so I can preserve my old memories of it.

Get those goggles off, mister. Vanilla questing was shit.

[Yuuki Asuna]

The cataclysm revamp was something I think blizzard regrets, since it spent time away from developing proper endgame content. I doubt, unless they had the resources to do it, that they'd repeat this.

BUT do we know for sure if they actually started on this a while back? Maybe they finished it already? It seems like if they can get content out faster in Pandaria, I don't see why they couldn't work on Outlands and get it out by the next expansion. It would make sense if the next expansion was a Burning Legion expansion. I had a friend who just started playing WoW about 5 months ago. I didn't tell him anything about the Outlands leveling, quests, etc. He got there and wanted to leave after being there for 20min. I've played since the end of BC and how much I do like the Outlands, I do think it does need a revamp. Especially with the questing. Going from quests that give you an icon of the item to use next your objective to an item that you have to actually use in your bags is quite frustrating to some people lol

*Edit* Also remember, in Cataclysm, they did ALL zones for Classic compared to the small amount there is in Outlands.

[Shuji V2]

Get those goggles off, mister. Vanilla questing was shit.

Am I not supposed to like it is that what you're saying?

[huth]

Cataclysm says Hi

Cataclysm might be the reason they won't do it. They completely underestimated the amount of work necessary.

[Noah37]

I kind of hope they are afraid to do it. I still love Outland as it was one of my favorite times in the game. Any time I run through Outland it brings back all of my BC memories. I still like some from WotLK, but some of the quests can be annoying. Anyways, I was disappointed with the Cata changes and when I level now, I still miss some of how it used to be. Playing since Vanilla I had learned a lot of zones like the back of my hand, and had many of them that had special places I just really like, and enjoyed visiting. So i just didn't really like the changes.

[Deleted]

Am I not supposed to like it is that what you're saying?

There's nothing subjectively to like when comparing questing to Cata. It had more diversify, while Vanilla had you killing/collecting stuff and a couple escort missions in the mix. Comparatively speaking compared to Everquest though, it was the bomb.

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Cataclysm says Hi

Just because they did something once, doesn't mean they are going to do it again. Ghostcrawler himself admitted that while it was something that needed to be done, it really hurt the expansion in general.

[Shuji V2]

Playing since Vanilla I had learned a lot of zones like the back of my hand, and had many of them that had special places I just really like, and enjoyed visiting. So i just didn't really like the changes.

Also one of the reasons I didn't like the revamp. It destroyed most of the places I loved visiting and going through. I agree with most of what you said as well. =)

[Z3ROR]

What is the main reason people want an Outland revamp or a Northrend revamp? Mainly because of the incorrect timeline you are following now.

Personally i would be satisfied if they just made the transition towards Outland and Northrend a bit smoother. This can be done without revamping, but only redoing the quests which you take to Outland and Northrend. For example you could be sent back in time by the Bronze Dragonflight to learn something.

[Lazy Gecko]

The cataclysm revamp was something I think blizzard regrets, since it spent time away from developing proper endgame content. I doubt, unless they had the resources to do it, that they'd repeat this.

To me that seems more like a fundamental design problem when you have to treat the majority of your world as "stepping stone" content which players have no reason to do more than once for the sake of leveling their character. I'd throw in the 70-85 content for that as well.

[Dezminion]

Please do not ask for some old zone revamp, ask for new continent... -_-

[Shuji V2]

There's nothing subjectively to like when comparing questing to Cata. It had more diversify, while Vanilla had you killing/collecting stuff and a couple escort missions in the mix. Comparatively speaking compared to Everquest though, it was the bomb.

I'm sorry but I don't like Cataclysm at all. I still often come to Outlands and level there frequently because I enjoyed it. Vanilla content would've been the same if they didn't change it because I loved being there too.

With the changes made I've only been able to enjoy Outland content. I just don't want them to take away all that made WoW what it used to be and leave something behind from the old good times. I rather have them spend their time on creating new content.

[Deleted]

I'm sorry but I don't like Cataclysm at all. I still often come to Outlands and level there frequently because I enjoyed it. Vanilla content would've been the same if they didn't change it because I loved being there too.

With the changes made I've only been able to enjoy Outland content. I just don't want them to take away all that made WoW what it used to be and leave something behind from the old good times. I rather have them spend their time on creating new content.

The 'old good times' people associate with is the experience of a brand new game. It didn't have anything to do with the content.

[Deleted]

After Cataclysm reception, Blizzard most likely changed their ideas of revamping old zones. The next xpac will be on a completely new place, Burning Legion or not.

[Digory Kirke]

I could see this working as a part of a Burning Legion expansion somehow. Maybe this is where Demon Hunters begin their leveling, and we see the resurrection of Illidan? If Blizzard did this right, Outland could be the first step of an Azeroth offensive to the Burning Legion. Kil'Jaeden sends a massive army of reinforcements to attack Azeroth through the still active Dark Portal, and we push them back, all the way back to Argus half-way through the expansion.

[Skayth]

Actually, I would like this if they do a legion themed expansion with 10 levels. Dont get me wrong, they will need to another continent or planet into the twisting nether, that you go to from outland, and some how keep some sort of story line consensus...

- 60-70-
~You go to outland to find the black dragons and the netherwing to help with deathwing (before 80), but the black dragons tell you they can never set through the portal again till Nzoth is dead, and the netherwing are being captured by twilight's hammer.

~Blades edge dealing with the black dragons (has become their capital) and moknathals. More rexxar lore, and why he never comes to help us with Garrosh.(both sides). And ogres lore and easier way to do ogrilla rep, with chogall trying to take them. More TH stuff.

~Shadowmoon Valley with the Remnants of the illidari held up (neutral faction, lore to illidan's were abouts), Twilights Hammer ravaging the place, calling upon the old god as well. Netherwing in trouble from TH. Shadowmoon becoming twisted from TH. DW shows up. Minor demon threat. Broken and Draenai love

~Hellfire Peninsula, minor threats from demons (seat), as they have been largely pushed back. The Dragonmaw clan is near death, you kill them, and the last few go to Twilight Highlands. Horde vs Alliance mainly, so back and forth that the lands are split equally.

~Nagrand becoming a warzone a new horde vs alliance. A grave to Saurfang's son. A Bronze dragon showing you the future of garrosh, and his downfall like a timeline quest where you help with canon lore of a horde and alliance party killing garrosh with the help of varian, jaina, voljin, and thrall. A grave to garrosh is placed post 90, with its own little scene that can be seen by both horde and alliance, similar to Cairne funeral. More DRAENAI LORE!!!

~Zangamarsh, cenarian expedition restoring the lands while horde and alliance still trying to kill each other. Battles end when the land begins to be corrupted by th. Alliance and horde face off with them, together, killing some "major" dude, together, then both sides pulling back "honorably". Broken and more Draenai.

~Terrok Forrest, archidrion becoming the Shadow Council capital, summoning demons, bringing forth an eredar. Arrokar neutral faction (if they arnt playable) to kill all the "bad ones". Battle between Horde and alliance. Alliance wins, and pushes horde to the Sunfury Place(have to have a horde flight path so this is the best spot). Worgen's begin setting up shop here (a real village.. quest hub. Not a damn tree).

~Netherstorm. Lots of love to draenai here. Cleaning up now insane Wretched blood elves. Surviving Sunfury that were enslaved join the horde. More Etheral Love. Each faction has a flight point now, Alliance the once ghost town, and horde a Sunfury place.

~blood elf and Draenai zones updated. Blood Elf shows dealing with alliance (as spoken in the 5.1 quests). Draenai wonder if the alliance really appreciates them (lack of lore to there name) and then learn the Alliance is good for them when Orcs attack (garrosh orders), and they remember the past.

Anything else? Nah. Think that's enough to play off of for 60-70. Would keep it cohesive. 90-100, only if this expansion will deal with it, then a full continent of lore to show for it, rather than 6 split up zones, dealing with the actual expansion Post 90.

[jd812]

if burning legion would be the next expansion or the one after that, Then we probably go to Argus, Outland is old news mate.

But there are so many planets to go to,
Outland is only one of the fragments of Draenor, which means there are other fragments of Draenor, that could have life on them.
Argus, the homeworld of the eredar race, and the exiled draenei.
K'aresh, the original homeworld of the ethereals.
Xoroth, the homeworld of the dreadsteeds.
Fanlin'Deskor, which is draenei for Amber Skies over Wondrous Rock, but seeing as how its inhabitants did not speak in ways anyone can understand, and none of the mortal races from azeroth ever walked there before the legion destroyed it, we probably won't go there unless it's a past vision kinda thing.

"One of the things we're most excited about," says Metzen, "is the chance to create environments unlike anything you've seen in previous games. Even better, this is something that's infinitely expandable for us in updates and expansions down the line. There can always be more portal worlds." Referring to the portals to other worlds that Illidan closed in Outlands.

So there are so many possibilities, it's limitless really.