How can you say you trust such an obviously stupid RL?
All I can tell you is that the Amp trinket is about as strong as the multistrike trinket (as per this post: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...7#post22152247), but also the amplification part of the trinket is worth around the same as the int proc on it. It's strong, but I can't tell you its relative strength compared to what other classes get from it. We have great synergy with the crit damage amplification, and the spirit/haste amplification helps to give us a bit more crit and a lot more mastery.
Since the amp trinket isn't miles ahead of every other trinket in SoO, we can't claim that it's absolutely amazing for boomkins -- the fact is that it's strong, and about as strong as the multistrike one. With two trinkets being pretty much the same in DPS it's more likely that they're really good but not a deciding factor in our DPS, as compared to Warlocks and UVLS. So if another class were to claim the amp trinket is by far their BiS trinket without comparison, I'd say it's likely the trinket is better for them than us. But without those claims, I don't think your RL can make the assertion that Boomkins are last on the priority list.
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If anything the Amp trinket should go to Ele Shamans first. It's worth about 40k DPS for them.
So I got the Frenzied Crystal of Rage tonight and I am thinking about what encounters it would be useful to use it on.
The Fallen Protectors springs to mind immediately.
Are there any others?
Galakras - it would definitely help on adds but be useless when boss lands. I guess since we spend most time killing adds, it'd be a dps increase overall
It would help with adds and breaking mind control during Garrosh but then there are also times where you face Garrosh alone or fight a single add so not sure whether it would be a dps increase overall.
Definitely Fallen Protectors, without question. Galakras would also be a good contender for the trinket -- there's more than 3 targets available for the majority of the fight, and I believe the break-even point is 2.5 targets on average. Spoils could also be good, but only if you get a lot of the Quilen boxes and your tanks clump multiple boxes together of other adds. Siegecrafter might be good on heroic too (mines). Klaxxi would be just as good as Fallen Protectors, but the additional DPS would just be bloat and not contributory. Garrosh is most likely no, but could be possible if your group doesn't have high AoE (adds last longer).
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Also, it looks like SimCraft was updated and they partly fixed DoC modelling -- the buff is now applied, but not consumed upon entering an eclipse. So we still don't have SimCraft to help with DoC vs. HotW and such, unfortunately. Might have more of an answer in the next revision, but as time goes on this need for modelling becomes less and less important.
I got that trinket this week too. Thought I would give it a try since I have normal trinkets of ToT still after clearing weeks of heroic... (thanks blizz )
Anyways I tried it out on Spoils, and well, it's pretty bad.. Did less damage than multistrike of the Flex Toxic totem 2/2. Maybe it was because adds where dieing too fast or not up long enough, will give it a try on protectors to see but not sure that trinket is usefull at all for anyone :/
With the Bindings trinket, do we have a new Haste breakpoint?
It's like asking if there is a new haste breakpoint if we use Breath of the Hydra. You actually get even more haste from Hydra than the amp trinket.
The 6-10% of the stat amp from the trinket doesn't really change anything regarding stats. So just continue doing what you've been doing already.
Coined my H WF Amp trinket. Bow down to your moonkin overlords.
Askmrrobot works with the amp trinket btw, so just set your breakpoint to 10289, manually lower mastery to around 3.1 and you'll be good to go.
And to add, there's not going to be a "new breakpoint". We're gcd capped. Haste goes significantly down from here.
I was wondering if someone had made a set up with hit cap. Personally, I am not a fan of being under hit cap as balance even if on paper it looks like more dps. Missing that 1 cast before eclipse hurts.
How does it change anything if you need less rating from gear to achieve the same breakpoint, if a) your character sheet takes the amp in account already and b) reforge lite takes it in account already. You literally don't need to care about it at all. Hence my reference to Breath, which has a passive haste stat as you need to react to that just in the same way as you would to the amp trinket, regarding haste breakpoints.
If you insist on manually entering a haste / hit breakpoint into reforgelite rather than using askmrrobot...
Cmode/Proving - 463 - 3.0267
528- 5.5462 (LFR)
536 - 5.9754 (LFR 2/2)
540 - 6.2023 (Flex)
548 - 6.6823 (Flex 2/2)
553 - 7.0009 (Norm)
561 - 7.5427 (Norm 2/2)
559 - 7.4035 (Warforged)
567 - 7.9764 (Warforged 2/2)
566 - 7.9024 (Heroic)
574 - 8.5140 (Heroic 2/2)
572 - 8.3568 (H-WF)
580 - 9.0035 (H-WF 2/2)
Select which Ilvl of the trinket and find the corresponding %, and subtract that % from 1. So for example, assuming you have the heroic warforged version you would do 1 - 0.090035 which gives you 0.909965. Then multiply that number by the haste or hit breakpoint you wish to hit. So once again us ing the H-WF version and searching for the 10296 gcd cap you would do 0.909965*10296 which gives you 9368.99964, or 9369. The number that you get from that should be the number you input on reforgelite. Hopefully my math is correct :P