Patch 5.4 PTR - Build 17331

[Deleted]

Still waiting the destro "buff" for RoF nerf... :S

[Sellest]

where is the best melee? in pve bis gear maybe. In pvp, worst.. thats why "nobady" play rogue. So open your eyes and see

I don't care about pvp, don't play and won't play. Different people play this game differently, respect their point of view and they will respect yours.

[Hablion]

nerfing monks and buffing rogues, aka the best melee (ignore the 5% nerf, it wasnt 30% on live, plus dispatch/envenom buffs)

I swear the devs are on drugs.

Where and when did they post an envenom buff again i have failed to see that buff

[Bluesftw]

problem with pvp rogues is that when they are having fun, noone else is. Also its a very thin line between borderline op and useless it seems.

[ColbaneX]

Still no Destruction compensation for removing Rain of Fire from the single target rotation first day of 5.4 PTR.

/sigh

I don't remember exactly, but I think GC said in an interview that they buffed base Ember generation. Like I said my memory is fuzzy on it.

[Deleted]

Is it raining !?? oh its tears ^^

[Deleted]

kill the rogue class more. gg nice idea. Will see, they will nerf more the most lowest played and worst class... i bet they will nerf combat too, becuse is now viable...roguee-s only need little dmg and mobilty

What? Rogues are the by far best melee class, current ptr testing showed them about 20% ahead of the other melees. Rogues are still overpowered, just not that far anymore. Not it's only 15% more instead of 20%.

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where is the best melee? in pve bis gear maybe. In pvp, worst.. thats why "nobady" play rogue. So open your eyes and see

Rogues dominate melees on all kind of gear and skill levels in PVE. They do it already and after the 5.4 buffs (and nerfs for most others) rogues totally annihaleted all other melees, 15-20% ahead. Now it's still 11-16%.

They are also the most wanted melee in raiding.

PVP, well. They are in a good spot, all rogues together share 7% of all paylers above 2200 rating. No other melee has a higher represenatation in 3v3 2200+ rating.

[Brondo]

Brewmaster monks, to the ground. Ouch.

Being a warrior is looking up! Being fury... Not as much

[Juni]

no warrior changes..? wow.. We have to play arms on aoe? jeeeeez Blizz.. JEEEEZ

[Torais]

I wonder how many of them Hunter changes are real and how many are just tooltip fixes.

[Digory Kirke]

Lets hope for a Warchief cinematic!

[Tarx]

Paladin gurdian 3min cd down from 5min is awesome

[Alayea]

For those wondering about the monk tooltip changes:

Quick clarification: the datamined changes you're seeing to Windwalker/Brewmaster abilities are simply tooltip fixes. The actual abilities have functioned this way for a while.

Something something datamining something something grain of salt something something.

[Shudder]

Slow news day.

[Deleted]

Brewmaster damage nerfed by 21% oh lol

it's a tooltip only...

Stop nerf & up with a ax blizz :x

[mitre27]

Hunter buffs are welcome, and it's about damn time Lynx Rush gets buffed... I remember the days it was the go-to talent in early pre-expac release

edit:

it's like the last builds' rogue buffs were completely dismissed. Also assassination is probably the best melee spec since 5.2

Wrong, enhance was the best in 5.2 and 5.3.