Are paladins again going to be ahead of the other tanks in T16?

[rhandric]

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-40...?s=8296&e=8439
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-z5...?s=8331&e=8473

Guess your paladins need to up their game?

Also, i'll repeat again, i'm NOT saying monks were not viable. I'm saying that given equal skill and gear paladin > monk. That doesn't mean that monks were not significantly better than everyone else tho.

I'm not seeing 100% there

[Seani]

im sure we wont be. It seems like we are getting quite a few nerfs in 5.4 as far as I can tell. Although theres one new glyph that caught my eye for 5.4 tankage.

[Deleted]

http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-40...?s=8296&e=8439
http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-z5...?s=8331&e=8473

Guess your paladins need to up their game?

Also, i'll repeat again, i'm NOT saying monks were not viable. I'm saying that given equal skill and gear paladin > monk. That doesn't mean that monks were not significantly better than everyone else tho.

Those logs are about as relevant as linking
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=8269#Pandoraz
and saying monks dps is OP.

[Inthislzon]

Those logs are about as relevant as linking
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=8269#Pandoraz
and saying monks dps is OP.

How is linking a paladin with ~150 seconds of consecutive uptime of SotR not a proof that it can be done? Animus doesn't give a haste buff.

Also yay for normal horridon logs, true endgame there.

I'm not seeing 100% there

Then you should pull animus and check if you can hit during the first seconds, as that's what it's missing.

EDIT:

despite the fact you cherry picked a top parse on a cheese fight that the characters in question outgear they show ~90% uptime. That's with a haste pot and bloodlust on a 140 second fight. I see we've turned the question of "whats good for the tier?" to "cherry pick an extreme outlier and extrapolate the class based on that"

I'm not disputing palas were / are very very good but the way you but forward examples leaves something to be desired.

That's a proof that paladins CAN get to over 90% uptime on SotR, and it will only be easier with NEXT TIER, as that's what is being discussed here, NEXT TIER, not current tier.

Do you think paladins are not getting another ~2k haste to more than compensate whatever haste pot?

[rhandric]

How is linking a paladin with ~150 seconds of consecutive uptime of SotR not a proof that it can be done? Animus doesn't give a haste buff.

Also yay for normal horridon logs, true endgame there.



Then you should pull animus and check if you can hit during the first seconds, as that's what it's missing.

Guess I'm blind and it doesn't fall off a few times on the second report
The point is, selecting a single fight isn't proof of anything.

[Deleted]

How is linking a paladin with ~150 seconds of consecutive uptime of SotR not a proof that it can be done? Animus doesn't give a haste buff.

/facepalm

Nice that you know the mechanics you try to speak off. The reason why they are able to reach those uptimes on that fight is due to the fights unique design which allows you to game the protection paladin 4p for a lot of holy power, which allows for almost 100% uptime on that short fight.

Please, I encourage you to find anything close to 100% uptime on any other fight.

[Kaiten]

Please, I encourage you to find anything close to 100% uptime on any other fight.

Monk Shuffle on Ra-den says hi.

But you're right in all aspects, anyone arguing 100% uptime when it needed a very specific talent and glyph selection to pull off for only one possible fight is kidding themselves. that it meant it was achieveable all the time - reality was closer to 50-60%, roughly the same uptime defensively as other tanks.