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    No reason to take Ivy over Haswell, 13% faster is 13% faster and they still pretty much cost the same give or take, unless the prices changed the last week and i didnt see it, they both OC the same, they both run hot, if you are planning to OC either Ivy or Haswell look into a H80i/H100i, H80i is usually recommended for 3570k/4670K at 4.5GHz and above, or if you dont want water cooling check into the Noctua high performance cooler, i dont remember the name of the newer model right now..UH something, but generally H80i is what you should take, costs the same.


    WD Green is horrible, change it to blue even if its for storage, its just horribly horrible.
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    Change to Haswell, it's about 400 MHz faster at stock speeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    No reason to take Ivy over Haswell, 13% faster is 13% faster and they still pretty much cost the same give or take, unless the prices changed the last week and i didnt see it, they both OC the same, they both run hot, if you are planning to OC either Ivy or Haswell look into a H80i/H100i, H80i is usually recommended for 3570k/4670K at 4.5GHz and above, or if you dont want water cooling check into the Noctua high performance cooler, i dont remember the name of the newer model right now..UH something, but generally H80i is what you should take, costs the same.


    WD Green is horrible, change it to blue even if its for storage, its just horribly horrible.
    H80i can't handle 4.5Ghz on Haswell, I found that out firsthand. @ 4.2Ghz and 1.14v with low 30s idle temps, I end up maxing out around 75-78c under AIDA64 and the like.

    4.5 would surely throw an H80i into thermal throttle unless you have the perfect chip and can pull it off under 1.9v.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    H80i can't handle 4.5Ghz on Haswell, I found that out firsthand. @ 4.2Ghz and 1.14v with low 30s idle temps, I end up maxing out around 75-78c under AIDA64 and the like.

    4.5 would surely throw an H80i into thermal throttle unless you have the perfect chip and can pull it off under 1.9v.
    You can go up to ~85 degrees during stress test for everyday usage.
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    You could get a different PSU and Case and use the extra $ to grab some liquid cooling to go with the 4670k you should be getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluorescent0 View Post
    You can go up to ~85 degrees during stress test for everyday usage.
    You're missing the bigger picture. I would find it hard to believe that a jump from 4.2 @ 1.14 to 4.5 @ 1.9v (and that was an insane underestimate voltage wise) would only increase temps by 6 or 7c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tielknight View Post
    You could get a different PSU and Case and use the extra $ to grab some liquid cooling to go with the 4670k you should be getting.
    Solid suggestions.

    BeQuiet would also have been my first choice, but Seasonic is also pretty nice if the shop the OP is ordering from doesn't have BeQuiet: http://geizhals.de/sea-sonic-s12ii-5...2-a497459.html

    Alternative case: Fractal Arc Midi R2: http://geizhals.de/fractal-design-ar...w-a896216.html
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    Go for the caviar blue and the Z87-A.
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    That board is overpriced, go for this : http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/...50::23046.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    You're missing the bigger picture. I would find it hard to believe that a jump from 4.2 @ 1.14 to 4.5 @ 1.9v (and that was an insane underestimate voltage wise) would only increase temps by 6 or 7c.
    What the fuck is 1.9v?

    I assume you mean 1.19V and thats pure bullshit.

    My 4.5GHz i7 2600K is at 36C idle with an open case, and 87C during stress test at 1.34V, yet even in Crysis 3 it doesnt go above 55C and thats a bad cooling system with an open case etc, yet i havent had a problem, with Intel burn test 10 passes x 10 times and 5 hours+ Prime.

    This whole "stress test" temperature bullshit is too much, the stress test is there to check that the OC is stable and that you arent reaching stupid values during the light load testing part, reaching 75C at a stress test when the threshold is 30% away, means you will never go above 45-50C during a normal game load.

    H80i has been shown to be for Haswell the first cheap choice for 4670K at 4.5GHz, and H100i the 4770K choice along with H110 and Seidon's, maybe Kraken for 4670K also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluorescent0 View Post
    Go for the caviar blue and the Z87-A.
    This.

    The Asus Z87-A is the go to board for a somewhat budget build with an i5-4670k. The above mentioned Gigabyte Z87X-D3H is also fine.
    But the Z87-Pro that the OP went for is not that bad. The onboard WLAN can be nice, if you do not want an additional card. If he does not need WLAN, then he should pick an alternative board

    As he already has an SSD in that build, the big storage drive does not need to be that fast. I would opt for more space instead of performance. So a 1TB Caviar Blue is a good pick or even maybe a 2TB Caviar Green.

    http://geizhals.de/western-digital-w...x-a795106.html (same price as the 500GB Black)
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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    What the fuck is 1.9v?

    I assume you mean 1.19V and thats pure bullshit.

    My 4.5GHz i7 2600K is at 36C idle with an open case, and 87C during stress test at 1.34V, yet even in Crysis 3 it doesnt go above 55C and thats a bad cooling system with an open case etc, yet i havent had a problem, with Intel burn test 10 passes x 10 times and 5 hours+ Prime.

    This whole "stress test" temperature bullshit is too much, the stress test is there to check that the OC is stable and that you arent reaching stupid values during the light load testing part, reaching 75C at a stress test when the threshold is 30% away, means you will never go above 45-50C during a normal game load.

    H80i has been shown to be for Haswell the first cheap choice for 4670K at 4.5GHz, and H100i the 4770K choice along with H110 and Seidon's, maybe Kraken for 4670K also.
    Of course I meant 1.19. You're also using SB which has completely different thermals and voltage caps from Haswell. I suggest researching the current state of overclocking on current chips before going on rants. 4.5 may be possible on an H80i, but you'll need a 1 in 10 chip.
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