So, after seeing a post that Paragon wiped 195 times before downing a boss it got me to thinking, how many times would you or your guild be willing to do that in the name of progression? It's always kinda made me laugh at guilds or pugs that get discouraged after 3, 5 or 10 wipes and just give up. I can't imagine the frustration in wiping on a boss nearly 200 times.