They kiss Method's ass sometimes too. Like when completely ignoring the fact Paragon killed Lei Shen Heroic on 10 man first (and Method and Blood Legion played along with this too by claiming World First and World Second in big noticable numbers, then adding 25 man in much smaller numbers. Very deceptive).
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And no corpses or skeletons. At least in the Chinese version.
Looks like the poster missed the "World First" in front of "Heroic Garrosh Defeated" there. Nice try with the "oh but they have 8 ilvls on us" defense as well. Face it, they did it first and outplayed all of the US/EU guilds. If they were as good as you all like to believe they are they would have outplayed and 8 ilvl difference by now but they haven't.. Because the Asian guild was better. ggnore asia wins the world first race again
Asain guilds haven't had a significant world first since Yogg Saron, except in Dragon Soul and just now, both of those times they had an advantage that others did not; so, you cannot say that gear doesn't make a difference. It doesn't matter how good of a guild you are, you're going to get beat to a boss kill when someone has significantly greater gear. It's like saying that an Asain guild got world first Ragnaros when they have Dragon Soul gear. While yes, they did get world first, it's just not comparable to non-Asain guilds because their gear was far better. If the Asain guild had killed Heroic Garrosh Hellscream on 25 man, it would have been a different story, but they didn't.
Totally doesn't count. Method and Legion would have it too if they had double lockouts. :P
Big Grats! on the World First and Asia First heroic Garrosh kill. Now let's see who can get world's first 25 man.
Time passes... years go by... but people instead of getting smarter they get dumber by the day. I find that hilarious. I know a lot of you are kids, so you don't know better and you may never do. But anyone saying that people against this are Method/BL fanboy need to get their heads checked for "aggravated lack of some sort of intelligence".
How can any of you enlighten people even for a second agree to call an Asian kill on a different client with a different set of rules a World first kill? Plz, stop being anti regions and use your damn head for once. They had access to gear no one else in any other region can, then they used it to kill 10 man HC, which has the same difficult then any other 10 man HC in the world. So let's pretend the immense difference in gear stats doesn't help achieving dps requirements, tank survivability or healing capability needed in some fights and instead let's claim it's lack of EU/US/AU skill to down bosses tuned for those regions with lower ilvs gear.
Intelligence, good judgement and knowledge are not something easy to acquire these days it seems... if some you want to keep showing here how you lack all 3 of those then be my guest. One thing are different opinions another is the complete unawareness of how things work and should be judged in specific circumstances.
Gz for their Asian World first. Still waiting for the World First...
8 average ilvl is a world, when it comes to world first, hence the mention and the persistent interest in the still ongoing eu/us race (btw I don't care much about world first. And asian firsts, 10-man and 25-man first all have my admiration because they all are different ways (strategy in the asian case) to play the game)
What I find surprising is that neither 10-man nor 25-man seem to have a net advantage on the other on this race. They pretty much had a similar progression in regard of time of bosses kills.
8 average ilvl is huge in a race that you sometimes wipe at 0.1%.
Blizzard failed, doesn't count, double lockouts don't count. More ilevel isn't even balanced. Blizzard failed.
Cool. 10 Man in Asia is the same as 10man in EU. Except they have better gear and more lockouts. Pretty sure quite a number of the top EU/US guilds would have had it down for a while now in the same circumstances. Regardless I guess, grats to them, I'm sure it's still a difficult fight.
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Please be a troll. Please please oh please be a troll.
A lot of people conveniently forget that Asian realms also get the patch 2-days later US realms (it used to be a week after) than and they don't get to participate in PTR, whereas US/EU guilds learn the boss fights way before release. The Asian 25-mans also deal more damage, so it balances out with ilvl.
If you want to scream "unfair", then all previous World First were unfair to the Asian realms.
Asian realms, only 25-mans drop 2/4 gear and increased lockout. 10-mans are exactly the same.10 Man in Asia is the same as 10man in EU. Except they have better gear and more lockouts.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...stone-GameplayDREAM Paragon Heroic Lei Shen 10 Man World First
http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/...ue-Posts-ComicMethod Heroic Lei Shen 25 Man World First
25m Asian Guild went in and facerolled 10m in their 25m gear. Anyone who actually thinks that is outplaying western guilds needs a reality check.
10 man and 25 are on separate lockouts.
Each one can be done twice a week.
25 man is tuned 10% harder, but the gear is also quite a bit better.
This guild fed 25-man gear to the 10 best players, while also getting gear in 10, making it so they didn't just get twice the amount of practice and gear, but four times the amount of practice and gear than any other region in the world. I'm sure that FAR more than makes up for a two day loss on time.
"Outplaying" doesn't matter in the race to world firsts. World Firsts are all about exploiting and cheating as much as possible within the allowed limits. If class-stacking, saronite-bombing, LFR-queing Western guilds get recognized for world firsts, then so does killing Garrosh with higher-ilvl items in my book.
World first is world first. Take it up with Blizzard if you don't like what they offer to Asian realms, but it's 100% legit.
Congratz to Them for World First... If you have a problem because asians get better gear and have seperate lockouts, then watch your fking face on the mirror and complain to blizzard for making the game like that..... As someone else said before, using 25 man "upgraded" gear for 10 man hrc is clever use of game mechanics...No cheat not exploitation.
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