Atonement 5.4

[Darkener]

If tanks optimize dps while tanking and healers optimize dps while healing, what do dps do?

[goltnum9]

Tanks ARE optimizing for dps in 10man , and disc priests , depending composition should optimize for dps too.
i see nothing wrong about it.

to the topic:
the haste cap is for ? BL cap or?

[kaamila]

im wondering how much extra dps is the 4p if you use it mainly offensively? i can use 4p but id have to change shoulders 572(heroic warforged) to 553 tier and 566 legs to 540 flex tier.

[espoire]

im wondering how much extra dps is the 4p if you use it mainly offensively? i can use 4p but id have to change shoulders 572(heroic warforged) to 553 tier and 566 legs to 540 flex tier.

Not very much. 10% for 10 sec is approximately 1 extra second of spells per minute. That would be a 1.7% increase, but the extra second turns out to be Smite. So it's more like a 1%ish gain. Not worth dropping so many item levels for sure. ~20 item levels on one piece to a 1% gain is the rule of thumb I use.

[jason1975]

Any particular reason for 4889 haste? 14K spirit is quite a lot, I can get away with just over 9K on my sheet but I don't have quite that much haste so we'll see if I need anything over 10K but I doubt it.

IIRC 17% haste is the point where we don't go sub 1 sec GCD during lust (though I could be wrong). I shamelessly stole that number from someone else who did a lot of this theorycrafting. Unfortunately I can no longer find the original posts or remember who the poster was.

As stated above, 14k is total effective spirit, which takes into account trinket/tailoring cloak enchant/legendary meta procs. I run with 8K spirit on my gear.

[Vilbu]

I am going for pure crit as much as possible. Running 2pc tier and as many off-set items with crit I can get my hands on. My prio is int=crit>mastery>haste>spirit but I run the healer meta. I've seen some discs using the dps meta but that way you need way more spirit.

I am being able to push ~100k dps give or take 10-15k depending on the movement and healing required outside atonement. I am using the dps cloak and obviously running 10man raids.

I've found myself using mind sear and sw quite often. Don't really know the dot is a notable dps increase but definitely using it alot with procs.

[Daagar]

If tanks optimize dps while tanking and healers optimize dps while healing, what do dps do?

Hopefully stop snoozing in LFR so that the dps-optimized tanks/healers don't out dps them.

[Dierdre]

If tanks optimize dps while tanking and healers optimize dps while healing, what do dps do?

Personally, I optimize my off-healing. Did some nice 95k hps on our last malkorok run.

[Daagar]

Personally, I optimize my off-healing. Did some nice 95k hps on our last malkorok run.

This would probably derail the thread, but a description or link to a site about how to effectively go about doing that would be excellent!

[Euerfeldi]

This would probably derail the thread, but a description or link to a site about how to effectively go about doing that would be excellent!

Just divine star the meleecamp for absorbs :P

I followed the advice in this thread and now use black blood and timeless spell DPS trinket until I get the healer AMP trinket. With some flex items I'm now doing 80k DPS and at least equal HPS. It's so funny thanks at all