Why can we just change time without messing up everything?

[Deleted]

Wasn't the plan of the Infinite Dragonflight to alter time in order to bring about something bad, like chaos or the release of the old gods or the unraveling of time or something like this. Now we're just changing the time and nothing bad will happen? Wasn't the point of all the Caverns of Time dungeons, that nobody should change the past or something bad will happen? Wasn't that the purpose of the Bronze Dragonflight and the newly created Timewalkers?

[mittacc]

Because Blizzard say so.

[Kraenen]

idk who cares. the lore never made sense since spaceship vodka dreneis and blood elf paladins

[Abstieg]

Sometimes time travel affects the present, sometimes it creates alternate dimensions. I'm not sure how it works, and I don't think Blizzard does either.

[Ichifails]

wasn't the plan of the infinite dragonflight to alter time in order to bring about something bad, like chaos or the release of the old gods or the unraveling of time or something like this. Now we're just changing the time and nothing bad will happen?

You don"t change time, draenor is a parallel timeline. Everything in our timeline is still going to be the same!

[Dannz]

alternative reality ? different timelines? i was under the impression that we don't travel "back in time" but rather through to another timeline/alternative reality ?

[Deleted]

WoD is set in an alternate reality.

[Deleted]

alternative reality ? different timelines? i was under the impression that we don't travel "back in time" but rather through to another timeline/alternative reality ?

It only becomes an alternative reality once Garrosh prevents the orcs from drinking the blood.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

That was in our current timeline they were doing things or attempting to. Now, essentially an alternate timeline is created by Garrosh's actions. The same could be said if say Uther saw what Arthas did and in abandoning the Light decided to go in a different timeline in the past and decide to stop Arthas or stop the Plague thus an alternate timeline all together creating Azeroth B(With Arthas still alive along with his Dad etc etc etc).


They're doing a Infinity universe/Legend of Zelda Time Travel theory.

[delk]

It's a timeline that split off from ours once Garrosh went back, nothing that happens in Draenor will affect our world, the threat is the Iron Horde trying to get through the Dark Portal into our world in our current time.

[Deleted]

WoD is set in an alternate reality.

Garrosh travels back in time and changes the past. This leads to an alternate timeline, and doesn't effect our timeline, but he still changed the course of time, which we are not supposed to do.

[Azutael]

Oh there will be ramifications (as they said in some of the panels) of course they are all "hush hush" about that so far.

[Deleted]

It's a timeline that split off from ours once Garrosh went back, nothing that happens in Draenor will affect our world, the threat is the Iron Horde trying to get through the Dark Portal into our world in our current time.

Yes that is the point. Garrosh went back and changed the past. Just like the infinite dragonflight was trying to do. How is what Garrosh did different from what the Infinites did? They tried to stop the orcs from getting to Azeroth as well.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Garrosh travels back in time and changes the past. This leads to an alternate timeline, and doesn't effect our timeline, but he still changed the course of time, which we are not supposed to do.

We're not supposed to change anything in our timeline. Garrosh essentially created a new dimension through his Timetraveling friend.

Yes that is the point. Garrosh went back and changed the past. Just like the infinite dragonflight was trying to do. How is what Garrosh did different from what the Infinites did? They tried to stop the orcs from getting to Azeroth as well.

The Infinites went through our own timeline. Garrosh traveled through time to a different timeline and connected that timeline to our own via the Dark Portal turning red.

[Faroth]

Maybe mortals create alternate timelines, but the bronze dragonflight (and infinites) would be able to erase time with their mucking about?

I prefer the multi-timeline version overall.

[Yuyn]

The best we've got right now is roughly this....

Garrosh travels back in time to somewhere between 2 and 3 years before the First War, to Draenor. At the date upon which the First War started on Draenor, Garrosh opens the Dark Portal, but leading to our present day, some 31 years after the First War. This means the Dark Portal is acting as a time portal bridging the two periods, or somehow Garrosh has removed this past alternate version of Draenor from the timestream, meaning it really is now present in the, er, present.

The best theory on this last part is that the Timeless Isle was really a 'hint', and that Garrosh or his 'patron' (whomever that may be) is using something similar to the Timeless Isle, except on an entire planet, to displace it from its correct point in time without disrupting the original timeline.

[Deleted]

Oh there will be ramifications (as they said in some of the panels) of course they are all "hush hush" about that so far.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe that'll be what leads into the next xpac. Maybe that was what Murozond was referring to when he said the Endtime (Cataclysm) is a blessing compared to what future he saw. Matthew Rossi wrote an article about how the Titans might be from the future and are trying to preserve the timeline that leads to their creation.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2013/11/06/kn...of-the-titans/

Maybe we are endangering their "birth".

[Tenjen]

we did show the supposed bronze "dragon" how to do it in the timeless quests, the dude who frees and helps garrosh.

[Trigg]

Garrosh time travels back to Draenor before orcs drink the blood and stops them, kicks Gul'dan out and becomes the new Warchief on Draenor of the newly formed Iron Horde.
(This creates a new timeline).

He continues to build the Dark Portal with the help of Nerhzul.

Once the Portal is complete on his end he uses it to bridge the gap between the Past Draenor and the Present Azeroth (portal turns red to signify this in game), not only bridging 2 times periods together but also 2 dimensions since it's a new alternate timeline, alternate dimension.

Garrosh has only been there 2-3 years after he time-travelled back, meaning the events of Warlords of Draenor take place 2-3 years after the orcs would have drunk the blood in our timeline.

Our timeline however does not change. We can still visit Outland in our timeline via mage portals and possibly the CoT.

The only changes that will occur in our timeline i.e. on our side of the red portal, will be whatever the Iron Horde do to Azeroth after coming through the red portal and these changes will affect our future, not our past.

[Deleted]

Why does everyone assume they know how time travel works?

In this instance Blizzard says it creates an alternative universe that is linked to our present. So basically they're out of sync, which explains the time gap.