Mythical level - 20man

[land]

Did I get this right? A new level, Mythical, for 20people and it will be a higher difficulty/loot than heroic?! I do not like this as a solid 10 man group right now.

[CTwin]

Just like 40 became 25, and 25 became 10/25, and 10/25 became 10n/10hc/25n/25hc you'll get the fuck over it.

[Zeldaveritas]

Just announced at the WoW What's next panel. Mythic difficulty at a "fixed" 20 players.

LFR, normal and heroic will all be flexible between 10-25 people. Discuss.

[Deleted]

No. Mythic is the current 'Heroic', but is limited to 20people.

What is Paragon going to do? Disband?

[Enosh]

blizz stop just stop
I honest to gog don't see the need for another difficulty, I got flex that one was needed imho, but another 5th one? O.o

edit:

LFR remains LFR and can now use flex technology when required, but will try to default to 25 people when possible.
Flex is now named Normal.
Normal may now use flex technology (between 10 and 25) and is now named Heroic.
Heroic is now only available for groups of 20 players and is now named Mythic.

makes more sense now
kinda

[Koca]

Mythis is just Heroic renamed, but yeah, they fucked over 10 man heroic teams good.

[Xtacle]

It's a compromise between 10 and 25 man sizes since the tuning of the two always made one version easier to do than the other. I like the change, even as a 10 man raider.

[CTwin]

blizz stop just stop
I honest to gog don't see the need for another difficulty, I got flex that one was needed imho, but another 5th one? O.o

Flex became Normal/Heroic.

[Asmekiel]

People have been asking for this a long time, 1 raid size.
Will be pretty boring though, no more hate threads about 10 vs 25 man

[Deleted]

I really feel like normal mode and heroic 10 man guilds are getting completely fucked over to be honest. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[Strafir]

Both raid sizes suffer, tough shit.

Embrace the future.

[timoseewho]

I feel that 25m guilds can easily ease their way into 20m mythics, but ya, 10m's, gg.

[Asmekiel]

I really feel like normal mode and heroic 10 man guilds are getting completely fucked over to be honest. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Less than 25m though. 2x 10m group forms a 20m group. What do you do with the extra 5 people from 25m groups?

[Xtacle]

Both raid sizes suffer, tough shit.

Embrace the future.

You could argue that 25 mans lose out more since you will have to cut 5 players who would always raided with you whereas for 10 man guilds you still have your full 10 man group, just with more players, nobody would have to sit out.

[Kitmajere]

Dropping 5 people is farrrrr easier than gaining 10. That's just ridiculous.

[Xsy]

Both raid sizes suffer, tough shit.

Embrace the future.

How is removing 5 players on par with recruiting 10 new ones?

[Manthis]

Hopefully the realm merging helps with recruiting, can't come fast enough.

[Fanatik]

Less than 25m though. 2x 10m group forms a 20m group. What do you do with the extra 5 people from 25m groups?

2x 10man that requires 2 tanks from one of those 10 man to maintain a full dps spec, and we haven't even addressed the loot discrepancies between 10 and 25 that currently exists.

[Squishei]

I sense a lot of awkward guild merges that are probably going to happen near the end of the expac.

[Xtacle]

I sense a lot of awkward guild merges that are probably going to happen near the end of the expac.

Reminds me of all the guilds dying out and splitting up at the end of Wrath.