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    Some of those Twitter posters like StephenReis123 and JDofAndersonia are so obnoxious and smarmy that I just want to smack them hard. I think Ghostcrawler encourages that behavior by even engaging with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmzuay View Post

    Did you play Storm Peaks when it was current content? They gave you ways of getting around when you needed to without having a flying mount. They can do things like that instead of just enabling flying in every zone from the word go.
    ...uh, they gave you LOANER flying mounts that were slow and were limited to storm peaks/icecrown. But they still gave you free reign to fly in those regions; you HAD to.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkarus View Post
    Well, each expansion changed Azeroth and the actual state of the lore, the way they said "Time travel is just a means to get players back to Draenor and bring back the classic Warcraft feeling and characters" just feels like that all they want is a excuse to show us some old characters and then at the end of the expansion bring us back to Azeroth as if nothing had happened...I hope I'm wrong, like I said, it would be awesome if this "trip" to Draenor change something in the actual state of the lore..
    They did say in another Q&A during BLizzcon that WoD will be setup for the next expansion.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneSent View Post
    "Time travel is just a means to get players back to Draenor and bring back the classic Warcraft feeling and characters."

    I though it wasn't a time travel expansion.
    Everyone seems to be missing what they meant by that quote. They didn't mean "There's no time travel happening" because there very obviously is to start the chain of events. What they meant is that we won't be dealing with time parodoxes or altering our timeline, there's no Back to the Future plot going on where we have to stop Garrosh from marrying our mom as we slowly fade from existence.

    This doesn't mean there's no repercussion's on the real timeline though, because Iron Horde invading Azeroth and us going back and forth will have an influence on Present Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSent View Post
    "Time travel is just a means to get players back to Draenor and bring back the classic Warcraft feeling and characters."

    I though it wasn't a time travel expansion.
    It's not. That's where the time travel stops. It gets you back to Draenor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willowe View Post
    Actually, it's more along the point that flying from mob to mob is 100x less epic/fun than being the badass who raised a whole town of Scruffy Clan Orcs looking for 15 [Scruffy Orc Ears] instead of skipping past every mob and/or pet that doesn't drop one.

    Also, they take loads of time making the 'Worlds' we play in: flying above the trees makes things look boring - it's just a carpet of trees and a hill here and there. Down in the forest, is everything that makes the world beautiful. Skipping that is what makes most Cata zones so forgettable.
    Whoa. WHOA. Stop. Think about what you just typed, for a minute. You're saying the guy who razed (not raised, we're not the Lich King) a town of orcs is 100x more badass than the guy who did the same thing WHILE RIDING ON THE BACK OF A FLYING DRAGON?

    WTF is wrong with you?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    By your own definition both guys had to get 15 [Scruffy Orc Ears], so it's not like the guy with the dragon got to skip killing orcs.

    The only reason to like no flying is if you're a dirty sociopath wannabe rampage killer looking to gank people and I no longer play on a PVP server so I don't give a shit anymore either way - let them take my flying. But please don't try to pass off ground mounts as being more epic or more badass than flying mounts. They're just not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmzuay View Post
    Did you play Storm Peaks when it was current content? They gave you ways of getting around when you needed to without having a flying mount. They can do things like that instead of just enabling flying in every zone from the word go.
    The way to get around to Ulduar when you needed to without a flying mount being what, exactly?

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post
    God damn. Wasting his time with your whining and not asking good, genuine stuff.
    Agreed. I, personally, want to know when we might see a new model ready for preview, and which one.

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    Ok this flying stuff is starting to get out of hand, people just suck it up & wait till 6.1, don't think of stupid ways to ruin Flying Mounts entirely just because you wanna fly.

    You whiners will not win, so give it up. You will wait until 6.1 if you wanna fly in Draenor. (Wouldn't it be funny if people actually think you can't fly anywhere until 6.1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdall View Post
    Whoa. WHOA. Stop. Think about what you just typed, for a minute. You're saying the guy who razed (not raised, we're not the Lich King) a town of orcs is 100x more badass than the guy who did the same thing WHILE RIDING ON THE BACK OF A FLYING DRAGON?

    WTF is wrong with you?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    By your own definition both guys had to get 15 [Scruffy Orc Ears], so it's not like the guy with the dragon got to skip killing orcs.
    Exactly.


    Think of the most epic quest in the DK starting zone before Light's Hope.

    It wasn't beating up scarlet peasants in the mines.

    It was RAINING DOWN FROZEN DEATH FROM ABOVE while on the back of a Frostwyrm. That was a thousandfold more awesome than running around on your little horsey killing things.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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  9. #29
    Wait a minute. There is no new race/class and it's still debatable whether we will have ALL vanilla models at launch or not? If those models are not ready by then it will be closer to having a huge patch rather than a new xpac.

  10. #30
    Shut up with flying already, it's not going to change. Damn I've got high hopes for cloaks in WoD, please let us have Lich King/Arthas cloaks...

  11. #31
    I had to facepalm when he mentioned the flying in dungeons / raids.

    You mean like how we can ride our ground mounts in dungeons / raids now?

    Every time he / they makes an excuse/response, its some ridiculous analogy that has no context or back-peddles on the precedence they've put out already.

    "Can we have an orange colored version of this shirt?"
    "Why dont we just make all new characters lvl 100 then."



    "But youll fly over the raid trash"
    "um...we cant even ride through them on ground mounts..."

    "Alts arnt meant to be faster the second time around"
    "Didnt you put in an account wide token that gives you 2x rep for alts?"
    "Cant we mail gold to an alt so they can buy faster ground/flying speed instead of having to farm the gold themselves?"
    "And on that matter, cant we just mail a LOT of stuff to alts to help speed things up?"
    "BoA gear"

    "If garrisons end up being per character, there will likely be a way to make garrison leveling and improvements faster on an alt.

    "Collect 10 boar asses will be ruined by flying over the content."
    "Um....you still have to kill the boars for the items..."

    Its like trying to have a discussion with a (Insert political group here and/or religious group here) , when all they want to do is spout out about how its going to bring out the end of the world.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkarus View Post
    Well, each expansion changed Azeroth and the actual state of the lore, the way they said "Time travel is just a means to get players back to Draenor and bring back the classic Warcraft feeling and characters" just feels like that all they want is a excuse to show us some old characters and then at the end of the expansion bring us back to Azeroth as if nothing had happened...I hope I'm wrong, like I said, it would be awesome if this "trip" to Draenor change something in the actual state of the lore..
    They never precluded the possibility of some of those characters coming back with us. In fact, it's very likely some of them will.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkarus View Post
    Well, each expansion changed Azeroth and the actual state of the lore, the way they said "Time travel is just a means to get players back to Draenor and bring back the classic Warcraft feeling and characters" just feels like that all they want is a excuse to show us some old characters and then at the end of the expansion bring us back to Azeroth as if nothing had happened...I hope I'm wrong, like I said, it would be awesome if this "trip" to Draenor change something in the actual state of the lore..
    I think the relevant line is this: "This will let the story have some fun elements that involve characters from the present without changing the timeline."
    Sure, maybe since we are successful nothing spills into Azeroth and the world is relatively the same, but the characters who go with us see some shit and they are changed forever. Maybe Thrall meets his father and understands him better and learns that while he wants to be a family man he must fight for the world like the old days for his son. Maybe Anduin sees some shit and becomes a true horde sympathizer. Maybe Some other Alliance leaders get some screen time. The idea is that while nothing from that world spills into Azeroth the events of the world will affect these characters going forward and develop them. That is what we will take away from the expac and that is fine. (Which, by the way, is what we got out of Mists. Anduin, Wrathion, Garrosh, and Vol'jin all went through pretty big changes. I expect Anduin's involvement with Wrathion to ultimately pay off for better or for worse.)

  14. #34
    It's obvious why we won't have flying mounts, and they will never say the right answer.. if we had them at level 100, all the level 100 would flight through the air killing all the rare spawning when people are leveling around and can't do the same because there will be 15 mobs between them and the rare.

    Look no further, it's timeless island.. imagine if you could fly to a rare while some others couldn't. That content will be obsolete at 6.1 when level 100 will have a new dynamic zone which probably won't allow flying either.

    I think it's a stupid idea personalty, but we'll see how it goes.

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    "garrisons look awesome, But please dont make them mandatory for professions. Garrisons should be optional & fun. Not a grind.
    The intent is to make them fun but they are not optional the way pet battles or brawlers guild was. (Source)"

    Bye bye trade and the little player interaction that were still left....

  16. #36
    "The current classes are somewhat balanced"

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Exactly.


    Think of the most epic quest in the DK starting zone before Light's Hope.

    It wasn't beating up scarlet peasants in the mines.

    It was RAINING DOWN FROZEN DEATH FROM ABOVE while on the back of a Frostwyrm. That was a thousandfold more awesome than running around on your little horsey killing things.
    except thats a quest in a limited zone using a game vehicle, not a mount. (btw loads of people bitch and moan about vehicles in quests, just like for everything else)

    its not mounted flying.

  18. #38
    God I would love a cloak that actually billows.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigmac View Post
    Except the no flying change.
    Why not give it a chance before QQing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post
    I think, honestly, I can speak for most of us in telling these people still whining and crying about no flying for a patch:

    SHUT
    THE
    HELL
    UP

    God damn. Wasting his time with your whining and not asking good, genuine stuff.
    Yeeeeeeeeeeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markdall View Post
    The only reason to like no flying is if you're a dirty sociopath wannabe rampage killer looking to gank people and I no longer play on a PVP server so I don't give a shit anymore either way - let them take my flying. But please don't try to pass off ground mounts as being more epic or more badass than flying mounts. They're just not.
    Or if you like things like the rope-bound treasure chest in Timeless Isle. That's why we won't be able to fly. So they can put cool rewards on ledges and other hard to reach places. Makes the world more interesting to explore.
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  19. #39
    "As long as players prevent Garrosh from building the Dark Portal for the Iron Horde to invade, there won't be any permanent changes to the current timeline. This will let the story have some fun elements that involve characters from the present without changing the timeline."

    This is what's pissing people off. What they're basically saying is that there is going to be an entire expansion that will have 0 progression in the main or sub story lines because anything that happens in Draenor, stays in Draenor which ends up getting blown up.

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    Lore reason for no flying mounts: "The Arakoa are very potent during this time period and have employed near god-like magic to keep 'blasphemers' from being able to use their wings." In Outland, the Arakoa are significantly downtrodden and no longer have a god, large-scale organization, and their numbers are a shadow of what they used to be, not to mention they lost their wings. I'm not sure why we don't just use them as a scapegoat for the no flying. They own the skies, it fits just fine.


    As for "As long as players prevent Garrosh from building the Dark Portal for the Iron Horde to invade, there won't be any permanent changes to the current timeline. This will let the story have some fun elements that involve characters from the present without changing the timeline."

    What the hell? I thought Draenor was separate from outland and therefore part of the current timeline now. It IS the current timeline. WAT.

    Also I'd like to know what happens to everyone still in outland when the dark portal goes poof...

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