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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by chaosjones View Post
    I spot something not true. 1 timeless upgraded = 504 + 1 lfr upgrade = 536 + 1 legendary cloak = 608 + 13 pieces of flex upgraded
    gives a total of 548.2 ilvl
    Timeless is 543. Like the items that say timeless on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaosjones View Post
    I spot something not true. 1 timeless upgraded = 504 + 1 lfr upgrade = 536 + 1 legendary cloak = 608 + 13 pieces of flex upgraded
    gives a total of 548.2 ilvl
    My shaman : http://eu.battle.net/wow/fr/characte...lista/advanced

    Not a single normal drop (not even ordos + celestial), not a single normal kill. Not even full Flex : still 550
    Now if you can leave in shame. Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tychus View Post
    "LFM... no Jews, Blacks, Mexicans or women"

    "WTF"

    "Shut up i play how i want"



    What makes WoW so toxic is the fuck-everyone-but-me elitism and segregation, alienation and ostracization, and the nihilistic drive to destroy community in the service of self gratification. That's self-entitlement.
    Nice strawman, bud. Comparing wanting geared players to something offensive and against the ToU, you must be so proud.

    But disregarding that, I AM entitled to run the groups how I want. You ARE NOT entitled to get in. If people stop crying over stuff that didn't affect them, there would be no issue. But it's a forum and people like to blow things out of proportion (which you so quickly did).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    My shaman : http://eu.battle.net/wow/fr/characte...lista/advanced

    Not a single normal drop (not even ordos + celestial), not a single normal kill. Not even full Flex : still 550
    Now if you can leave in shame. Thank you
    I acknowlagde that I made a mistake, and are sorry for doubting you.

    Yet not everyone is as lucky as you.
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  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by chaosjones View Post
    I acknowlagde that I made a mistake, and are sorry for doubting you.

    Yet not everyone is as lucky as you.

    why do you equate a little bit of effort put into gearing with luck?
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas View Post
    why do you equate a little bit of effort put into gearing with luck?
    Because luck has it that I personally have none.
    And some other people but that is another talk.
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  7. #307
    Everyone has their choises, some who only need couple items prefer higher ilvl groups for faster and safer clears.

    But if you think lower ilvl is enough, nothing stops you from making your own group (but don't feel bad if someone else is putting the effort in to make a group and when aren't and they have high ivl requirements).

  8. #308
    It's always been like this. The community is silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Omertocracy View Post
    I remember ICC.

    "LFM ICC 10m, GS 5500."


    For those younger viewers, ICC 10 dropped 251 ilvl. 5500 GS was about 260.
    Same shit, different expansion.
    God I remember GS. Good riddance!
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  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by Tychus View Post
    "LFM... no Jews, Blacks, Mexicans or women"

    "WTF"

    "Shut up i play how i want"



    What makes WoW so toxic is the fuck-everyone-but-me elitism and segregation, alienation and ostracization, and the nihilistic drive to destroy community in the service of self gratification. That's self-entitlement.
    It's not at all elitism.. You can't talk about Flex and elitism at the same time. MY run is restricted to those with AoTC. Heroic mode is restricted to those with AoTC. Flex is not in anyway restricted to AoTC.

    Also if racism wasn't against the rules I really don't see an issue. Maybe somebody doesn't feel comfortable around those groups even if its in voice chat? Or maybe not wanting girls evacuee they unintentionally lead to drama? You know that in the real world personal businesses are allowed to deny anybody service for such reasons right? Corporations cannot but if I was gonna drive a food truck around I could only serve attractive black women and nobody could stop me.

  10. #310
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It's always been like this. The community is silly.



    God I remember GS. Good riddance!

    Priest your GS isn't high enough for icc 25, you need 5700 mate.

    *Equips stamina trinket and agility mace

    You can come!

  11. #311
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixuzcc View Post
    "Suddenly 550 ilvl before flex" - do you realize you're talking about several WEEKS if not months of investment, just to get into Flexible raiding?

    I don't even do the legendary questline on my alts because, honestly, I know I wont be using them for anything more than my own time, with Flex being the high point of raiding for it. And yeah, there's upgrades but you're switching things out fairly fast in the early 510 ilvls and valor is still capped at 1000 so youre not really raking in the upgrades as is.

    Timeless 535 gear, yeah sure. But getting the right peice and a Burden for each is a time investment Im just not willing to do - on my alt(s).
    Then make your own flex pug. Or are you "not willing to do that" on your alts either?

    Getting very sick of this dumb shit. Pretending like there are no other options and blaming others for playing the game the way they want to for your own problems. Don't gear your alt then or stfu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tychus View Post
    "LFM... no Jews, Blacks, Mexicans or women"

    "WTF"

    "Shut up i play how i want"



    What makes WoW so toxic is the fuck-everyone-but-me elitism and segregation, alienation and ostracization, and the nihilistic drive to destroy community in the service of self gratification. That's self-entitlement.
    This is why you don't get into flex pugs. Dumbass or troll.

  12. #312
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    Flex Garrosh is tuned for around 530ish so asking for 540 for flex 4 isn't exactly as crazy as you make it sound.

  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    It's always been like this. The community is silly.



    God I remember GS. Good riddance!
    yep. why would you want organized raiders to have an easy way of determining what you should be capable of based on what you are wearing and what others before you could do. that is just silly that people had a means of not taking every raid destroying scrub into their groups without some form of easy quality control that did not take tabbing out and looking up armory and past experience.
    it would be much more fair to look at someone who has done nothing but raid finder and say "nope not good enough" as oposed to being able to easily check geming, enchanting, and rough level of thier gear in a simple glance. what kind of MORON would waste their time thinking of such a widely used time saver.....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anzen View Post
    Priest your GS isn't high enough for icc 25, you need 5700 mate.

    *Equips stamina trinket and agility mace

    You can come!
    thats the thing. if the raid leader checking you with the gearscore addon was using it properly he would see that you had useless level boosting items equiped.
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

  14. #314
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulrender View Post
    Why are there people looking for members with IL 540+ if the Flex runs drop 540 gear?

    It makes no sense to me.
    Should they ask for at least 525+? Or even 530?
    Because they don't want to carry LFR babies or people in welfare epics that whine about not being 540. Cause 99% of you fools don't know anything about the mechanics and you stand in shit.

    I don't think I can be any more clear than that.

  15. #315
    picked up a couple of new players to the guild who had been out most of the expansion. caught them in LF"R" and had to pull a WFT? So put a flex together with 14 players who were mostly 560 or above and gotta say it went smooth as silk. The two below 550 non guild members were the only ones to die repeatedly. go figure.

    just saying.
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

  16. #316
    Quote Originally Posted by Omertocracy View Post
    I remember ICC.

    "LFM ICC 10m, GS 5500."


    For those younger viewers, ICC 10 dropped 251 ilvl. 5500 GS was about 260.
    Same shit, different expansion.
    rofl GS haha i remember that. oh the joy of heroic PoS and a dk tank with a 4000 GS. those skeles on the ramp would 1 shot em. also remember hunters needing on the 1h tanking sword off the last boss in there...dafuq.

  17. #317
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    this again.. yes its ok, for a smooth run. My main was @ 565 ilvl with a ToT TF ring. The flex ring from Blackfuse is an upgrade even at that level.

    yesterday a guy was asking for 550+ for part 3. My 552 warrior is still rocking a 522 neck.
    When raid got full he invited 2-3 friends at (ballparking) 510-520 ilvl so everyone left.

    Thing is, there are high ilvl players that still have low ilvl gear they want to replace. There are people asking for high ilvl players to either be carried themself or help friends get carried.

    if you dont like, MAKE YOUR OWN GROUP.

  18. #318
    Quote Originally Posted by Fearin View Post

    if you dont like, MAKE YOUR OWN GROUP.
    resoundingly the above statement. you will get a lot more done, well wipes anyway, forming your own low gear group then bringing up a rant on a third party forum.
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

  19. #319
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    Quote Originally Posted by judgementofantonidas View Post
    picked up a couple of new players to the guild who had been out most of the expansion. caught them in LF"R" and had to pull a WFT? So put a flex together with 14 players who were mostly 560 or above and gotta say it went smooth as silk. The two below 550 non guild members were the only ones to die repeatedly. go figure.

    just saying.
    whats your point? the two random people died in flex? yeah, so what?

  20. #320
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanzlee View Post
    whats your point? the two random people died in flex? yeah, so what?
    the two "oh take me I am undergeared but I know the fights"----------------- their quotes, died almost every pull in both wings we did.
    that narrowing it down for you a bit?
    There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP

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