Why the Double Standard on Circumcision?

[pateuvasiliu]

Isn't one a sexual lobotomy and the other cosmetic?
I think if they both produced the same results there wouldn't be any double standard.

It's not the result that matters, it's the fact that you are mutilating someone and taking away their rights to their own body.

[Flutterguy]

They determine pleasure by the number of receptors in a penis

Even if those receptors are not active?

[Catta]

Tradition is reason enough for me. If my dad, my grandfather, my uncles, every male in my family has been circumcised because it's what our family does, then that's reason enough for me.

Replace circumcision with "not being vaccinated" and you hopefully see how moot a point tradition is when it comes to medical practices.

But I am well aware I am unlikely to change your mind. I'd just implore you to have your child's best in mind rather than your own.

[eodusaf]

How come male circumcision is seen as acceptable in the US (as well as in other countries) but female circumcision is rightly looked down upon? I know male circumcision has a couple incredibly marginal benefits as well as drawbacks but both seem highly immoral to me. They should be entirely the decision of the child once he or she grows up. I know female circumcision is more brutal and unnecessary, biologically speaking. I just don't think the moral difference of forcing it onto a child, especially for religious reasons, is all that large. I know I will let me children decide for themselves (if I have any). When thinking about the religious causes of circumcision I get even more upset. I wouldn't be opposed to banning the use of it on children, even for religious reasons, except in various life or quality-of-life threatening circumstances. You're freedom of religion shouldn't give you the right to physically impress your beliefs onto your child. It's worse than tattooing your child. Circumcision is at worst mutilation and at best cosmetic in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTS6iVpSPI

male and female circumcision are not even close to the same thing. Female circ. is the equivalent of cutting off the entire penis. There a lot of medical reasons for male circumcision, so take away what you want from that

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Except I said in the OP female circumcision in more brutal

I think it would of been better to say female circumcision shouldn't be allowed EVER due to the way it is done and biology. I feel like best answer for this debate is probably somewhere around the answer for the whole abortion stuff. Not to derail but I found it interesting there doesn't seem to be a concrete clear answer for both debates.

I think it's more difficult because the baby can't say "No mama leave my penis alone I like pleasure."


......I probably shouldn't of laughed at that.

Makes sense.

Are some of them damaged since the head is always exposed then? That's one thing that seems odd. Apparently the head of the penis is never supposed to get as dry as it does when you're circumcised. I imagine that isn't very good for... receptors. Or the war against zippers.

I can buy that answer albeit I'm not sure how that works. When I hear about foreskin it makes me think of skin that really wouldn't hurt if removed. Guess I'm wrong though. Unfortunately trying to test this is a bit inhumane.

[Catta]

I don't have ED, I orgasm just fine, as well as my partner, and I'd even argue that because I'm less sensitive that I last longer which is beneficial for everyone.

And you apparently fail to grasp statistics.

[JohnBrown1917]

Whatever your opinion on this is, it should be the choice of the male himself, and nobody else. Which is why parents should be banned from having it done to their kids. They should not be allowed to force a choice like this on a kid.




I'm glad that I was born in Europa, where this sort of thing is not common at all, or atleast in my country.

[Flutterguy]

Replace circumcision with "not being vaccinated" and you hopefully see how moot a point tradition is when it comes to medical practices.

But I am well aware I am unlikely to change your mind. I'd just implore you to have your child's best in mind rather than your own.

Please stop pretending you know what's best for other peoples children.

[Rukentuts]

Please stop pretending you know what's best for other peoples children.

Except he knows far more about medical science than you.

[Catta]

It's the same line of thinking when a man suggests that a woman get breast implants.

Both are wrong. Please don't do this, people. That goes for both sides. Uncut men shouldn't have to feel pressured to become circumcised later in life because girls think his junk looks ugly, and girls shouldn't feel pressured to get breast implants for the same reason. Anyone who reinforces either of these superficial mentalities are part of the problem. =/

I am personally of the opinion that a penis looks ugly no matter how you cut it. Or not cut it.

[Xanjori]

Please stop pretending you know what's best for other peoples children.

Your kid can have it done as an adult, why is it up to you as a parent to inflict an irreversible procedure on your child for no actual reason? I don't think you deserve kids if you want to be that stupid in the name of "tradition".

[Tychus]

New Testament stated that circumcision or non-circumcision wasn't a factor anymore in anything pertaining to getting to Heaven or pleasing God. It's more tradition than it is religious.

That doesn't make it not-religious. Further, not everyone subscribes to a variant of christianity (or christianity at all) that may interpret things in such a manner.

[Deleted]

Makes sense.

Are some of them damaged since the head is always exposed then? That's one thing that seems odd. Apparently the head of the penis is never supposed to get as dry as it does when you're circumcised. I imagine that isn't very good for... receptors. Or the war against zippers.

The foreskin contains a few thousand alone, plus the skin of the exposed head becomes corsair for componsation

[apepi]

Just make a law for parents to not mutilate their child, if the child want to do it them it is their choice to do it when they are a adult. Unless their is a fatal medical problem where it is needed.

[Catta]

Why does this "other side" pretend to know what's best for the other?

Because its the one not forcing a cosmetic surgery on those who can not consent while suggesting that they wait till they can decide for themselves?

[Shakadam]

Most americans will think circumcision looks better, most europeans will think it looks weird and unnatural.

There may be some minor health benefits with circumcision, but there are also some minor health disadvantages. They pretty much cancel each other out.


At the end of the day it's a pointless procedure and since we're born with a foreskin then why not fucking leave it there? The only reason the practice still exists is because in some areas it's "tradition and peer pressure" and someone's getting paid to do it.

[Kalis]

I am personally of the opinion that a penis looks ugly no matter how you cut it. Or not cut it.

"Why am I circumcised?"

"I wanted you to have a nice looking cock."

"Err...thanks mum."

[Flutterguy]

Except he knows far more about medical science than you.

Meaning what exactly?

Your kid can have it done as an adult, why is it up to you as a parent to inflict an irreversible procedure on your child for no actual reason? I don't think you deserve kids if you want to be that stupid in the name of "tradition".

Inflict? Funny how I don't feel that way about my own circumcision. In fact, I quite like it and I would consider it an abuse to inflict my child with a foreskin.

[JohnBrown1917]

"Why am I circumcised?"

"I wanted you to have a nice looking cock."

"Err...thanks mum."

Sounds like the intro for a incest porno.

[Daara]

As a male with a circumcised penis at birth I find that I wish I have had the choice myself. When I was younger it wasn't much of an issue but as I get older I'm finding it harder and harder to stay erect in some sexual positions. More and more we are starting to discover the side effects of male circumcision. It is believed that it is the leading cause of ED in men. Cutting off the foreskin is the male equivalent to cutting off a woman's clitoris. To those of you who think it's just useless skin, do some research and educate yourself. Watch videos of babies being circumcised. There is no anesthetic used and it is extremely painful to the newborn. Doctors only suggest it because it is a separate charge for them to circumcise your child. Another several thousand out of your pocket into theirs.

We live in a world where opinion is more important than education. Just because you think it should be done doesn't mean it should be. Educate yourselves and stop forming irrational opinions based on what your religion, "tradition", and doctors looking to make extra money suggest. And just for further knowledge, male circumcision wasn't even big in the US until Kellogg started suggesting it as a method to stop young men from masturbating. He thought that men would relive the pain of their circumcision when the thought of masturbating occurred.

To the women who still think it's ok, go get your clit cutoff and then come back and tell me if you're still for it.
To the men who still think it's ok, stop trying to impress women because of the way your dick looks. An erect circumcised penis is no different than an uncircumcised one.