Warcraft has an extremely critical fanbase, no matter what Blizzard do with the game, there are always big groups of extremely vocal fans who think it's "really, really bad" - I can't see this being any different for the movie - The real test is whether or not it can appeal to non-gamers and/or non-WoW fans.
Its a 100 million dollar movie
This movie cant itself rely on those hardcore lore nerds like to me to survive especially if its plans on becoming a money making movie franchise like star wars or LOTR
Its got to tick all the boxes or its gonna be a gigantic Pluto Nash of a shit bomb
I doubt it will be a good movie since hardly any games to movies have been any good at all. It will also flop in the theaters because of the negative social stigma attached to WoW that anyone who doesn't play the game has. Regardless of how untrue the loser in the basement, South Park "villain" stereotype is, most people have it and won't be seen dead at this movie.
I'll just say, the WoW movie has a slight chance, simply because Uwe Boll isn't involved.
Oh and to add to my earlier list:
Max Payne
Most games turned film tend to suck but most don't have Mr Krabs!
Fuck yeah Mr Krabs!
All of those were low budget B movies with B movie talent made by studios as basically expensive commercials cashing in on the name of a franchise. You have to completely be blind to context to think this logic is analogous to the issue at hand, or have you to have no freaking clue of who is working on this movie or what their ideas and talents are. I don't see how anyone can watch the Blizzcon panel and still be mired in this quagmire of gratuitous confirmation bias.
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It's going to look like Avatar meets the Lord of the Rings. And it won't look generic. Nick Carver and Glow Wei are personally overseeing visual designs with ILM and Weta here. This isn't just going to look like Eragon or Dragonheart, it's going to look spectacular. John Carter was a pacing disaster because one man was given far too much power over his vision without anyone there to naysay him. This is a collective effort with some of the finest talent in the industry, and it's been meticulously approached in every way you can imagine, which is why the movie wasn't produced 7 damn years ago. The very fact Blizzard sat on this project for so long should alone have people intrigued. Like the RTS and MMORPGs, Blizzard is an innovator in taking something that is usually popular with a niche audience and making it appeal to the masses on a nigh exponential scale.
Context. Context. Context. Context. Context.
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I think it can happen two things about that movie.
A: It's Awesoooooooooome. hit of the year blablabla in Ya face lotr!.
B: It suuuucks. failure, rock bottom, shame on you for making that piece of crap.
Imo its gonna have haters and lovers just like always.
No, you get a clue and free your chafing groin from those negative nancy pants. These people have passion for what they're doing. They didn't just think they had a clever way to portray the idea and pitch it to a studio executive who loved it so much he greenlit it. They've been sitting on this project for over 7 years, because they didn't have confidence in the previous incarnations of the project for one reason or another. You're just making blanket dismissals and making the problems seem intrinsic to the genre, which makes you pretentious in your matter of fact attitude. It's a bit more than values I don't share. You'll have to point out what those values are and where they're conflicting if you want to base your dismissal on that. Again, you're just another person ignoring context here.
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That's exactly what they are not doing. Did you even watch the panel? That's what Duncan Jones didn't like about the state of the project, he wanted to show there are heroes on both sides. Just like a movie about WW2 can show there are charismatic Nazis or Japanese who had issues with their conscience over what was being done in the name of their nation, we're going to see orcs in this movie who feel they're race has lost it's way in their demonic blood lust and for uniting and following Gul'dan. We will see heroes and villainous tyrants on both sides, but yes, the orcs are the invaders here. But as in real life, even people invading and subjugating another people or nation are more than shallow 2 dimensional bad guys. Like it or not, the orcs did invade Azeroth under demonic pacts, that doesn't make the orcs all monsters. But then again you're calling Tolkien an "empty experience", lol. Okie dokie then.
They have actual human actors using Avatar quality motion capture and facial capture rigs to make these orcs empathetic and emotive. They aren't just going to be mean old Tolkien orcs.
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This is just just wrong. They told us at the panel they couldn't tell us what the movie was exactly about because of silly studio policy on PR, but they gave enough hints to show it's clearly based on major lore. They gave us enough hints to know what's happening here. Anduin Lothar? Durotan? Warcraft 1? Did you even watch the panel?
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Yes, they completely ignored the rivalry between Scorpion and Sub Zero and made them into glorified body guards. They basically took the lore of MK, put it in a jar, shook it up, and then tried to reinvent the wheel by doing what seemed "cool" to them. Sub Zero was trying to assassinate Shang Tsung. Scorpion came back from hell to take revenge on Sub Zero for killing him. Paul Anderson is a hack, and he completely made Alien vs Predator into a joke. The only halfway decent thing I've seen him touch was Event Horizon, and only because it had an interesting plot.
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No, there was quite a bit of backstory behind Mortal Kombat, most of which was ignored or tweaked in bizarre Hollywood fashion for the movie. There was a comic book explaining the lore of MK1 and later MK2 created by the game makers art team you could order by mail directly from the address given on the arcade games, and then an entire series of comics was published in comic book shops. There was a story blurb ingame in the manual for each character and what they were doing there. Mortal Kombat should have been more like Bloodsport meets Hellraiser meets Big Trouble in Little China. What we got was a dated piece of 90s pop culture.
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It wont end up bad, but it would be an average 6/10 movie no one cares about. In best case.
It had a great potential, blizzard cinematics always were top notch.
But they are not rendering it, they are just taking random actors, dressing them like cosplayers and making them play in front of the camera.
So in worst case... we can get 2 hours of cosplay stupidity.
I hope they won't change lore too much for this movie...
They were pop corn B movies just barely above straight to video. Street Fighter wasn't even that, it was a complete joke and everyone mocked it, just like Double Dragon the movie. Mortal Kombat was at least an attempt at making something better than Street Fighter's crap movie, but you had to have no knowledge of the actual lore behind Mortal Kombat to think it was a decent Mortal Kombat movie. That story was based on heated rivalries and transdimensional magic and demons, but they turned it into a glorified USA Network tv movie which was bred with a giant 90 minute music video, and it wasn't even a cool music video like Tarsem would have directed. The sequel just went straight to B movie video hell.
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Because you say so? Yeah, Willow and Legend and the Lord of the Rings and Dragonslayer and Avatar and Star Wars were all just cosplay stupidity too I imagine.
I would have loved a fully CGI animated movie, I think it's the natural niche for Warcraft, but if it has to be live action, this is pretty much the dream team one could assemble behind it. I'm just glad Sam Raimi with his overly sentimental sappy style is a million miles away from this project now. He should stick with Evil Dead movies.
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Wait a minute.. is the movie being made based on the game or lore? Imo its pretty obvious that the movie will be a lot better if based on lore.
The movies are nothing alike beyond the most superficial of comparisons. This kind of rock, paper, scissors thinking is odd. Yeah, they're both epic fantasy, but this is basically something like Letters From Iwo Jima with a fantasy veneer. The integrity of the Lord of the Rings in it's realistic portrayal is a good thing to want to compare, but the stories and their pacing and their format is really nothing alike. Return of the King will sort of compare, but this isn't a story about pure evil against all that is good. This is a much more nuanced war movie.
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I think mortal Kombat, and Street fighter are bad examples to use. for an example of BAD!
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Well, Blizzards cinematics are fucking amazing, so we can expect that kind of quality for the movie.
I'm not positive about this movie. Simply based on the fact that I have yet to see a video game movie that doesn't suck.
But of course I would be happy if they surprised me.
ILM is in charge of the orcs, with veterans from Avatar working on the team as well. And the person who is overseeing and even participating actively in their designs? Glow Wei. Pretty much THE orc artist next to Samwise himself, while Samwise does more Don Bluth animation style, Wei realizes that style realistically with strong bold iconic poses and silhouettes with a perfect balance of detail and realism. And WOW is supposed to have the color palette of a crayola crayon box. They should not be changing the tone of the style for the movie into something it's never been.
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