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    When should I go mastery?

    Hi

    I have read that I should go mastery build after I get some gear but do not know when...

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...azori/advanced

    Should I go mastery now or stay with my haste/int gems for a few more ilvl?

    Thanks for all the help

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    At the current standings you should be able to go mastery now, the point generally being the meta gem, That being said your current haste level is close to what i would consider optimal level at max gear, so it is upto you, it would probably be best to try and Sim and reforge plot to see where it would be best for you.

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    Hey! I'm here with all your needed answers: Sim yourself, find your statweights.

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    i wouldn't go all out mastery just yet. you can leave your haste where it is though, and push all your future upgrades into increasing mastery

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    you should sim yourself following this guide

    Plz guys stop tell around go for mastery...... check Totem spot is writed black on white.... FULL MASTERY pull head only on constant cleave fights...... FULL HASTE is for single target while a BELANCED build is for rest of the fights.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    That is laughably incorrect, I out dps any and all shamans stacking haste up to 5 item levels higher(even 7 item levels higher at some points) than me on both cleave and single target fights. Mastery is superior to haste in almost all situations.
    That is laughably incorrect, I could push to 16k haste and destroy you. Haste is better single target, use tickle's guide on totem spot. Eventually you'll get a feel for what plays the best for you as well. As other people have said I find that haste level comfortable to start pushing mastery without sacrificing haste(I.e upgrades). Since I'm guessing you're not in a top end guild absolute theoretical maxes won't really matter.

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    You have the legendary 30% haste metagem. But you're purified trinket is kinda crap.

    Maybe you first wanna sort out you're glyphs and talents?

    If you're going full mastery, go unleashed fury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    I've been called one of the best ele shaman in the world, if not the best.
    By who exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    Judging by your armory, there is no way that is possible. Maybe if you had like 10 item levels on me bu sadly you do not.


    I've been called one of the best ele shaman in the world, if not the best. I think I know what I'm talking about. Mastery > Haste.
    Oh yea, my buddy told me i was the best Resto Shaman in the world last night too, so i guess we should have a party!

    Why don't you show us the logs of your (supposed) amazing DPS, then? The best Shaman in the world surely wouldn't go unlogged... Unless he is a phony, that is.

    It's been a while seen i've seen such an idiotic statement as:

    "I've been called on of the best ele shamans in world (CITATION NEEDED), if not the best. I think i know what i'm talking about."

    The pretentiousness is strong in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post

    I've been called one of the best ele shaman in the world, if not the best. I think I know what I'm talking about. Mastery > Haste.
    LOL ye about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    Judging by your armory, there is no way that is possible. Maybe if you had like 10 item levels on me bu sadly you do not.


    I've been called one of the best ele shaman in the world, if not the best. I think I know what I'm talking about. Mastery > Haste.
    That's cute, you do realize if I went to 16k haste I would still have around the same mastery as you do now? I know my boots are reforged wrong, but that's for resto and even still I would beat you. I only have 2 ilvl on you but I have 10% more mastery, 1200 more haste and 3k more spell power, so how exactly would you beat me?

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2854batjfpszx381/sum/damageDone/?s=14000&e=14186 cute like I said on a 3 minute fight you only did 270k and that's pure single target normal mode.

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m7o4z7bcz5hbqvk4/sum/damageDone/?s=2356&e=2637 my log from a month ago.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2854batjfpszx381/sum/damageDone/?s=15746&e=16021 yours from last week. Don't even pretend you can hold a flame to me please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavalashlol View Post
    -snip-
    And we have a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavalashlol View Post
    That's cute, you do realize if I went to 16k haste I would still have around the same mastery as you do now? I know my boots are reforged wrong, but that's for resto and even still I would beat you. I only have 2 ilvl on you but I have 10% more mastery, 1200 more haste and 3k more spell power, so how exactly would you beat me?

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=14000&e=14186 cute like I said on a 3 minute fight you only did 270k and that's pure single target normal mode.

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    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/m...?s=2356&e=2637 my log from a month ago.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=15746&e=16021 yours from last week. Don't even pretend you can hold a flame to me please.

    You sir, best ele shaman in the world. hands down.

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    this thread is gonna be interesting /popcorn

    Isn't it possible to reach 100% mastery these days at high gear levels? I rarely play my elemental shammy but supposedly you could go for the mastery hard cap and then switch to haste at very high gear levels, correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    Many elemental shaman of Blood Legion, Vigil, Exodus and other top guilds have personally complimented my talents and skills.


    I would beat you because I out skill you and you must think you're real slick for posting farm kill logs.
    Even on progression I would beat you, I don't know why you're trying to defend yourself saying OH it was farm. Which means your numbers should be higher than on progression, but anyway anyone reading this thread knows you're wrong so I'll stop responding now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    I'm really not trying to brag
    second thread you're trying to brag in yet people can prove you arent very good.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post24410199

    also:

    http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/26584/rankings/players/
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulfric Trumpcloak View Post
    People on this site hate everything. Keep that in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittycovox View Post
    second thread you're trying to brag in yet people can prove you arent very good.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post24410199
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    Thank you for this it was a delightful read lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    You can talk the talk but you cannot walk the walk. I'm sorry to say this but you would in no way ever come within 20k of my dps on progression on any fight. Multiple targets or single targets. I don't know why you're trying to argue here. Mastery > Haste. End of discussion.
    Pretty sure he walked the walk when his DPS walked all over yours on the same boss. Pro tip: DPS doesn't drop on farm kills, it goes up because you most likely have better gear compared to when you first killed it and you know the fight better. If your DPS sucks on a farm kill, your DPS sucks during progression. Period.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juesh View Post
    You'd basically be disagreeing with the top shaman in Exodus, Blood Legion, Vigil, Overture etc because quite a bit of them have personally told me that I am the best ele shaman several times. IDK but I think their opinion is a little more valid than anyone elses. Several of them have even complimented me telling me I was better than them and deserved to be in their shoes if it was not for my RL schedule.
    lol

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    Yeah word of mouth is something we believe without proof, also I did 500k single target on a 10 minute fight but no logs. People will back me up though dont worry /sarcasm.

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    I don't think much of you and your excuses are bad and you should feel bad. I don't care you're jacking off mid fight 200k on thok is bad. Sit down and don't "raid lead" and actually try to pull numbers then come back here.

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