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    Study confirms the idea that schools should have armed/trained security.

    http://news.yahoo.com/spike-in-mass-...132625638.html
    http://leb.fbi.gov/2014/january/acti...m-2000-to-2012

    I know this is a Yahoo story, but w/e. I found the information in it pretty compelling to the idea of employing people in schools (and other public places) whose sole job is to react to a violent incident. I already know the gun control arguments are against putting more guns in schools, whether it's arming teachers or having armed security, but the numbers seem to support the idea of first responders being on campus already in the event of an incident.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eroginous View Post
    Thoughts?
    That it's a silly premise of focusing on symptoms rather than the cause.

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    Get more Police sure, but teachers have enough shit to deal with as it is without them requiring more training, regulation and responsibilities.

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    Or ban guns? Seriously how many school shootings do you hear about in Europe

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    Or ban guns? Seriously how many school shootings do you hear about in Europe
    Banning guns will solve nothing, regulate them better instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Or ban guns? Seriously how many school shootings do you hear about in Europe
    We have had quite few in Finland. And we have pretty tight gun regulation laws.
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    Armed responder stopped and basically ended the recent Arapaho High school shooting a couple weeks ago.

    By being on scene, he forced the gunman into the library where he was cornered and took his own life. Kind of hard to argue against that.

    This is not Europe, this is America, our values are different, and this isnt a pro/anti gun argument.

    Armed responders in any school is a good idea imo.

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    Public schools are already like prisons, so I'm not sure what would change exactly.

    My high school wasn't even very big, and I graduated before all these school shootings became a thing. Yet even there, we had a "resource officer" who was literally there every day. I'm not sure if he carried a gun or not, maybe that's the difference we're talking about?

    Maybe if schools weren't as much like prisons and bullying wasn't such a wide-spread thing that is mostly ignored, there would be less children wanting to shoot other children? But lets not fix the cause I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    That it's a silly premise of focusing on symptoms rather than the cause.
    What would be the cause?

    Also, how is it silly to put an armed/trained deterrent in place to minimize the effects of a violent incident?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Or ban guns? Seriously how many school shootings do you hear about in Europe

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Europe
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    I wouldn't want my child going to a school with armed men/women on every corner

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    Wait, isn't it the US's biggest fear to become a police state? Am I the only one who's sees the irony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I wouldn't want my child going to a school with armed men/women on every corner
    Again, cool for you to say, but that wouldn't be a change here in the US. That is already happening.

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    My thoughts? Colossal waste of money that wont solve a thing. You all know what the solution is, but you dont care enough to enforce it, so until then the bodies will pile.
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    Exactly very few and that's a whole continent

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Exactly very few and that's a whole continent
    Now compare populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I wouldn't want my child going to a school with armed men/women on every corner
    And yet you let them walk down the streets with armed men/women on every corner.
    If you can't make fun of something, its probably not worth taking seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I wouldn't want my child going to a school with armed men/women on every corner
    Welp this isn't Europe so you don't have to worry about it.

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    And yet you let them walk down the streets with armed men/women on every corner.
    Do I? Where

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