Originally Posted by
Danishpsycho
I'm 14/14 Heroic and I demand everyone to log on TS, when we do our weekly Flex run - even raiders. If pugs don't wanna log on TS, they can fuck off. I have to agree with others, when they ask if it may be the leader i.e you and the OP in some cases, that bares part of the blame though. You being 14/14 Normal means nothing, if you can't figure out how to properly assemble a group. Check achievements for instance or require a minimum ilvl.
To both you and the OP: If you bring people who do 80k dps, then clearly they're either bad or they're crap geared. If they're so bad that they can't push more than 80k, then the odds are they don't even have a Garrosh kill. If they're doing 80k cause their gear is that shit, you failed at checking them before you invited them.
On rare occasions I do join a pug Flex group on an alt. I always check people's HP and if it's below 600k, I inspect them.
This being said, I know that people will often say "LF 1M Tank Flex part 1 - good group" etc. but in reality they're just a bunch of failers. The moral of the story is, that if you want to be sure you get a smooth run, don't pug it. Do a run with your guild/friends or ask the decent guilds on your server, if you can join, when they're doing a run.