Rygarius: "Way too soon" for Warlords of Draenor Beta

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I feel so sorry for Blizzard, they must be deathly afraid to say anything without the fans over-reacting to it. But alas they do have to say something.

They should just mess with us. I mean seriously this overanalyzing shit is just stupid.

[Luko]

They should just mess with us. I mean seriously this overanalyzing shit is just stupid.

I agree. The Karazhan renaming bit was good for a few weeks. Why stop there? Introduce a previously unannounced Warlord of Draenor; Glimmor, the cheery orc shieldmaiden with huge pink pigtails and a candy-striped tower shield. She's totes pro iron fer sher.

[Celista]

I agree. The Karazhan renaming bit was good for a few weeks. Why stop there? Introduce a previously unannounced Warlord of Draenor; Glimmor, the cheery orc shieldmaiden with huge pink pigtails and a candy-striped tower shield. She's totes pro iron fer sher.

They should announce another Onyxia raid

[Xavv]

You guys know they can manage this game now with only 300k subs, right?
They don't need you anymore, The people who are constantly saying foolish shit like, "They're going to shoot themselves in the foot if they wait too long!" are just silly.

Let me spell it out for you, Blizzard IS the foot. They are the entire fucking body. It does not matter how big the competition for MMO's in 2014 might seem, people will not leave a game they have already invested 3-9+ years into, and beyond that the other games are always terrible. Always. ALWAYS. ..... ALWAYS. When has that ever changed? Why do you think it would now?


Some of you really think that Blizzard as a whole could fall apart completely if they don't release this beta soon, that simply is not true.

The fact that they are going through with the new season tells you that the current end game content is going to be here for AT LEAST another 12- 22 weeks, that is the window of time you are looking at before a Beta starts.

[TheHodedOne]

races and classes dont make an expansion, they are nice to have dont get my wrong. But actual content makes a expansion, you know....raids, dungeons, scenarios, challenge modes? youd rather have more races and classes over actual content? is this real life?

that is funny, becouse this exp will only have the half of the dungeons and raids that had WoTlk at launch, Blizzard is killing wow very efficiently

[Aeluron Lightsong]

that is funny, becouse this exp will only have the half of the dungeons and raids that had WoTlk at launch, Blizzard is killing wow very efficiently

You could stop trying to incite people.

[Toppy]

You could stop trying to incite people.

He may very well be right. When it comes down to it, it does seem like WoD will have less release content than expansions prior, considering we all sorta know that they'll be leaning on scenarios as an excuse to have less dungeons. All the testing they really need sits with raid balance, and balancing the lv 100 talents. What more is there? Dungeon balance doesn't mean jack, and the features being added arent all that big in the first place and will require direct testing: IE only a beta will do it, and once the beta starts the kinks will be immediately obvious.

Hell, stuff like dungeons and the MoP challenge modes get very little change from beta to release. The bulk of testing sits on raids, which takes 2-3 months.

[Infernix]

End of February before we see a beta launched and September before we see WoD, at the earliest.

When are people going to stop playing wishful-thinking games and look at plain reality?

[Count Zero]

When are people going to stop playing wishful-thinking games and look at plain reality?

No different than your wishful-thinking. There is no solid proof it will release in September, just like there is no solid proof it will release in June.

It's looking less likely for a June release each day, but it's simply not off the table yet.

[Kazlofski]

No different than your wishful-thinking. There is no solid proof it will release in September, just like there is no solid proof it will release in June.

It's looking less likely for a June release each day, but it's simply not off the table yet.

Yours is wishful thinking. His is more realistic/unwishful for sure.

[Count Zero]

Yours is wishful thinking. His is more realistic/unwishful for sure.

Where in that post did I say I think it will come out in June ? I said June and September both have no proof. In fact I even said June is looking less likely each day. What post were you even responding to, because it sure doesn't seem like it was the one you quoted.

In any event, there is no proof. June is not off the table. September is not off the table. Saying either as fact is wishful thinking.

[snuzzle]

At least this guy's being honest, unlike many of the other posters I see spouting their reasons for wanting/expecting an early release.

If WoD dropped in early August, they'd still be on track and would still be a little early compared to other releases. People running around talking about a spring release are simply depending WAY too much on this one game to sate their general boredom.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. An August release is still just shy of a year of a single content patch (5.4 came out in Sept 2013) and that's FAR too long. That's me being honest, it isn't depending on one game, it's having a reasonable expectation that the game I am paying for puts out new content at a respectable rate. Can you name me any other single MMO that has patch cycles that last this long? MOP has been out a little over a year now, and during that year, we got FOUR content patches. And having to wait almost a full year for new content is reasonable to you?

[Raiju]

Where in that post did I say I think it will come out in June ? I said June and September both have no proof. In fact I even said June is looking less likely each day. What post were you even responding to, because it sure doesn't seem like it was the one you quoted.

In any event, there is no proof. June is not off the table. September is not off the table. Saying either as fact is wishful thinking.

It could the last week of april and a june release could still be possible. Doesn't really make it much of an argument.

[felcommander]

I certainly hope no one was expecting info this early. I mean there's wishful thinking and then there's just being silly.

However, they've always been pretty careful with their wording. There's no exact meaning here. They could pop the beta out this time next month (which would still be pretty early) for all we know based on that tweet.

Personally I'm rather surprised stuff isn't being leaked yet, if we truly are going to be in SoO they should really be getting close to a beta release date at the very least.

[Celarent]

You guys know they can manage this game now with only 300k subs, right?

"We have enough market share," said no currently employed senior management ever.

@Rygarius We're excited to get the info out as soon as possible. The writeups and articles don't appear overnight.

Now, this is some genuine walkback.

People need to realize that it makes no business sense, to customers or investors, following 16 months of swiftly deployed content with a languid six to eight months in which subscriber retention is left to luck. Rygarius essentially said, "Plan? What Plan?" It's just bad PR.

[Count Zero]

It could the last week of april and a june release could still be possible. Doesn't really make it much of an argument.

That's my whole point. There are arguments for June, and for September -- none of which nullify the other. People are claiming June release as fact, and people are claiming September release as fact ... when neither is a fact yet.

[TheHodedOne]

edit. check my answer bl

[Luko]

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. An August release is still just shy of a year of a single content patch (5.4 came out in Sept 2013) and that's FAR too long. That's me being honest, it isn't depending on one game, it's having a reasonable expectation that the game I am paying for puts out new content at a respectable rate. Can you name me any other single MMO that has patch cycles that last this long? MOP has been out a little over a year now, and during that year, we got FOUR content patches. And having to wait almost a full year for new content is reasonable to you?

It is reasonable to me. When WoW puts out patches (let alone expansions) they put out a SHIT ton of content. It's worth the wait.

During the downtime between content patches/expansion, I always get bored which is why I unsub and go do something else for the allotted amount of time. It's not up to Blizzard to make sure I'm thoroughly entertained for countless hours during their production period. Anyone who feels otherwise needs to get their head checked. I get MORE than my 15 bucks a month when I'm subbed and when I don't feel like that statement is true anymore, I unsub. Not a difficult process.

When they do drop content, it's the best that the MMO world has to offer which is why I make sure to resub for (almost) every content patch and Xpac. I simply play games that I find entertaining and of the MMO genre, WoW's been the only one to consistently keep me coming back for almost a decade. Couldn't care less what that means to other people, but to me, it means I get reliable, cheap entertainment every time I subscribe. Is that not worth the wait?

The fuck do you people even want at this point? (meant for anyone whom it may apply to, not necessarily the person I quoted)

[TheHodedOne]

this.Blizzard is not that fool, they are obviously trying to kill wow in order to have an MMO playerbase ready for Titan
.- that´s why ghoscrawler leaved wow in first place, WoW will only have another shitty and stupid based release date exp , after that , blizzard will shut down 95% of the servers and let the game in F2P. titan is their priority right now, and the news that the titan team was closed is pure bullshit. sorry for the insults

[The Hero of Legend]

edit. check my answer bl

Excuse me but, don't you have better things going on in your life other than writing the same old garbage again and again?