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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Spotnick View Post
    This means they will open pre-orders soon since the mini-patch should hit at same time as season starts.. which can only mean the beta will be announced soon.

    One can only hope.. not much left to do until then.
    Pre-orders should come within a week of the patch, imo

  2. #42
    Do find all the happy wow worshiping kiddies adorable. Leave game for a while (like a few months) and see how much draw it has. TESO at the moment isn't looking like a super hot potato but... who knows. Will get to have a proper test this weekend (was invited to the last one but working so had about 3 hours playtime, seemed ok).

    Most complaints about the test weekends start as "boring" "on rails" etc then either change to "too hard" or "not enough direction" by the end. Play it for more than 10 minutes before bashing it (from a still undecided punter).
    Quote Originally Posted by Boubouille
    I knew it would be useful to be french at some point.
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    just get a mac. It's like sleeping with a fat chick to avoid STD's.

  3. #43
    WOD june 24th u guise

  4. #44
    love or hate ESO, it's still something new to pass the time with...considering wow wont have new content till after summer, it might not be so bad to pass some time.

  5. #45
    im playing the open Path of exile beta atm when im bored with wow, diablo 2 clone and way way better than diablo 3

  6. #46
    2 days of lag again? Cool. What about several weeks of beta test? Thx.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Hotei View Post
    how the hell is pvp season ending when a person with the minimum 2200 cap each week would only have achieved a full set 1-2 weeks ago.
    It's 23 week season. There have been 7 seasons that lasted under 23 weeks. WoD in July 15th or 22th.
    Last edited by mmocfd1b0ab5a3; 2014-02-05 at 08:02 AM.

  8. #48
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    "Oops...
    Something in your request was detected as invalid or potentially dangerous."

    How can Curse not even get the login right... I haven't been able to login since like... ever.

  9. #49
    To set a complete race behind a Paywall; also only let pre-buyers decide what faction they like to choose: no thank you. I thought to give it a try; but with their decisions they do not only makes ESO look bad before they even started the game; no they even destroy the whole Elder Scrolls Merchandise.

    @ mercutiouk

    You are right: the game might be good, but nobody that complains how moneyhungry blizzard is can really go to ESO: Compared to them Blizzard are angels: because not a single of their services is necessary; convenient yes, but not necessary. Heck even the Level 90 service is compared to ESO nothing: in ESO you can buy your "heirloom" even before the game started and are faster at leveling than normal. OK, blizzard will sell level 90s too; but to be fair: the vast majority is 90 now and you will not be faster at leveling when WoD hits. Heck even the gear is on a lower ilvl than Timless-Isle-Gear.

    If it was a P2Play-Game that is free afterwards it is understandable. But it is a suscription-based-game and after all this news: No thank you!

  10. #50
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    I didn't even notice Imperials were unplayable until they announced it in the Special Edition. Never played that race, and never will - there's plenty of other choices out there.

    Also why the 'muh paywall' butthurt? It's a few slight bonuses in a collector's edition. Microtransactions? Pay2Win? Can I get a citation on that? If you're gonna be that butthurt about spending additional money in a subscription-based game, at least be honest about why you're fine with Blizzard doing the exact same thing. 'But it's cosmetic, I swear!' Only half of it, the other half is for shortcutting your way to a max level you want to play.

  11. #51
    "Blood, sweat, and tears stain the Arena floors and Battleground fields."
    Mostly tears.

  12. #52
    I was really excited about TESO but after playing both of the previous beta sessions, I'm very disappointed. It definitely has the MMO elements in it, though barely intact. What's lacking is the TES part. It's a MMO hiding behind Bethesda's shadow. It has the races, the stories, and the entirety of Tamriel, but it lacks the je ne sais quoi that the single-player games have. It's understandable though since Todd Howard and co. have no relations to this disappointment.

    I'll give it another try this weekend but a purchase is becoming less and less likely.

  13. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerrRudi View Post
    I didn't even notice Imperials were unplayable until they announced it in the Special Edition. Never played that race, and never will - there's plenty of other choices out there.

    Also why the 'muh paywall' butthurt? It's a few slight bonuses in a collector's edition. Microtransactions? Pay2Win? Can I get a citation on that? If you're gonna be that butthurt about spending additional money in a subscription-based game, at least be honest about why you're fine with Blizzard doing the exact same thing. 'But it's cosmetic, I swear!' Only half of it, the other half is for shortcutting your way to a max level you want to play.

    Why are you whiteknighting them? It's an entire race. Cosmetic or not, would you like it if they put any race in WoW behind a paywall? It's going to set a precedent if people actually support this, and it will only be the start. I see no reason for people to defend it.

  14. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twintania View Post
    Why are you whiteknighting them? It's an entire race. Cosmetic or not, would you like it if they put any race in WoW behind a paywall? It's going to set a precedent if people actually support this, and it will only be the start. I see no reason for people to defend it.
    I would support it, so I can see more tears on mmo-champion about "muh 10 bucks"

  15. #55
    I was always supporting sub games, and for a good reason. Now, about TESO, I was a sure byer and also pre-order byer. There was also a good chance for me to buy the collectors...But then they announced the collectors edition and a whole race locked behind it...now my problem is not the extra 20-30 bucks but their attitude..imagine to buy wow and not being able to play Humans unless you buy the collectors. This is a bad attitude for a game that charge the box and a monthly sub. Now I am not even read the tamriel foundry, their fansite for information. The only chance I may buy it is to lift this restriction and also apologize for this bad movemt so people don't expect them to do the same on an expansion or something.

    Also for people who think wow will release on June 24 or July e.t.c. There is no possibility that the game will release on summer...Release on summr when people are on vacations is very bad business. If they cannot make it until Late April - early May then 99% is going for September/Octomber.

  16. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twintania View Post
    Why are you whiteknighting them? It's an entire race. Cosmetic or not, would you like it if they put any race in WoW behind a paywall? It's going to set a precedent if people actually support this, and it will only be the start. I see no reason for people to defend it.
    Whiteknighting? I wasn't aware ESO was a little damsel in distress where I'm hoping to get laid with.

    As for the paywall race in wow? You mean how they put mounts behind those paywalls of yours as well? Same thing. Neither of them I care about, as it's not something I would spend money on, and I won't blame people for doing so, as it's cosmetic.

    As for strawmanning my post, I wasn't defending anything. I only stated my opinion regarding Imperials, and made a general statement pointing out some people's hypocrisy.

  17. #57
    For whatever the hell it matters, I think ESO is a lot of fun, and as an Elder Scrolls fan I think it's worthy of the name. From what I've played I think it's a game worth buying, but this idiotic need to equivocate all MMOs as the next either the next WOW or they're failures,... it's getting old. WOW got people to try MMOs who never had before when the genre was new.
    The genre isn't new anymore, and gamers don't need to try MMOs anymore that exist in the millions to pool from. It was a perfect storm of high quality and untapped audience potential.
    The audience no longer is around, gamers are all on the net and gaming has become more mainstream, information and social networking and comments sections create meme like congnitive viruses manifesting as bias and I whistled for a cab and when i came near, the license plate said fresh and had a dice in the mirror.

    I think it's a solid game and will have a large audience, one of the more successful and stable MMOs in the end aside from WOW.

  18. #58
    Got one for free...

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Twintania View Post
    Why are you whiteknighting them? It's an entire race. Cosmetic or not, would you like it if they put any race in WoW behind a paywall? It's going to set a precedent if people actually support this, and it will only be the start. I see no reason for people to defend it.
    I see no reason to criminalize it either. The whole of the world is built in this concept. Pay, get something. Pay more, get more. Can't handle it? Time to wake up.

    I'd be thrilled if humanity gave socialism a shot, but since you cannot change the way the world works, why getting obsessed over little things like PC games? People need to get their priorities sorted out.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    I see no reason to criminalize it either. The whole of the world is built in this concept. Pay, get something. Pay more, get more. Can't handle it? Time to wake up.

    I'd be thrilled if humanity gave socialism a shot, but since you cannot change the way the world works, why getting obsessed over little things like PC games? People need to get their priorities sorted out.
    and this is how F2P games work...they are a true capitalism system where you have the rich people and the poor experience the game(world) in a different way. However, the subscription model is known for the opposite...you pay a monthly fee and you get 100% of the game. No rich and poor, no distinction between the players. Matt Firor (ESO designer) also said that too

    "just having one small monthly fee for 100% access to the game fits the IP and the game much better than a system where you have to pay for features and access as you play." - Matt Firor

    "We don't want the player to worry about which parts of the game to pay for - with our system, they get it all." - Matt Firor

    "We feel that putting pay gates between the player and content at any point in game ruins that feelign of freedom." - Matt Firor

    now I live capitalism every moment in my real life and I don't want the same for my games too. MMORPGs create virtual worlds where people get "lost" inside...it does not need to be like real life and thats why many of us we prefer the sub model.
    The trick of selling a FFA-PvP MMO is creating the illusion among gankers that they are respectable fighters while protecting them from respectable fights, as their less skilled half would be massacred and quit instead of “HTFU” as they claim.

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