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    Is this a start up or Billion dollar Blizzard? They only use F&F alpha as a stress test so it only needs to run for a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangz View Post
    Seeing how the next PvP season havent started yet, and they usually last for around 5 months, we would have a WoD release in july-august.
    They have said though that this next season would be a shorter one then the previous. Now whatever that means is up to you but I still assume they are aiming for a spring release but didn't want the same arena season lasting 3 more months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    I really wish MMO Champ would ban the phrase F&F alpha. They havent had one in years. Theyve been going straight to beta yet people STILL keep talking about a F&F alpha
    Nonsense, i can guarantee you that both MoP and Cataclysm had an F&F Alpha, how? Because i was in both of them....
    It's usually not that exciting with all the blue-white placeholder blocks around and most areas stil lclosed, but it's alpha nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholydevil View Post
    They have said though that this next season would be a shorter one then the previous. Now whatever that means is up to you but I still assume they are aiming for a spring release but didn't want the same arena season lasting 3 more months.
    No, they haven't said that. All they said is that they are not saying it will necessarily be a 20-25 week PvP season. And, even that was only said after people took Holinka's comments to extrapolate to a release date. They said yesterday on the investor call that the majority of Blizzard's releases will be in the second half of the year. Since they have RoS, Hearthstone and WoD and ROS is confirmed for March, that means that WoD has to be pushed to July or later if that statement was true.

    I strongly suspect they are targeting a late September release.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmaster View Post
    Nonsense, i can guarantee you that both MoP and Cataclysm had an F&F Alpha, how? Because i was in both of them....
    It's usually not that exciting with all the blue-white placeholder blocks around and most areas stil lclosed, but it's alpha nonetheless.
    Yeah, we're gonna need proof of your claim that MoP had a F&F Alpha.

    Otherwise ... "That which can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    Yeah, we're gonna need proof of your claim that MoP had a F&F Alpha.

    Otherwise ... "That which can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof"
    Heck remember the hilarious F+F cata leak that happened and then Boub posting tons of images because he figured cat was out of the bag and then blizzard going "no bad boub take those down"

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    I am certain that it is in internal alpha but I doubt it will go into FF Alpha since there was only a internal Alpha for MOP before beta was opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholydevil View Post
    Heck remember the hilarious F+F cata leak that happened and then Boub posting tons of images because he figured cat was out of the bag and then blizzard going "no bad boub take those down"
    Yeah, there is proof of Cata F&F Alpha all over the internet. There is not a trace of evidence to suggest MoP did. Every search for it only turns up hits of people asking if it's started, or hits for Cata F&F Alpha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    Yeah, we're gonna need proof of your claim that MoP had a F&F Alpha.

    Otherwise ... "That which can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof"
    Its been said multiple times that there was no FF Alpha only an internal for MOP there was a FF alpha for Cata but not MoP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangz View Post
    Seeing how the next PvP season havent started yet, and they usually last for around 5 months, we would have a WoD release in july-august.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceethemage View Post
    Its been said multiple times that there was no FF Alpha only an internal for MOP there was a FF alpha for Cata but not MoP
    Yet there is a guy in this thread claiming he was in the MoP F&F Alpha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    Yeah, there is proof of Cata F&F Alpha all over the internet. There is not a trace of evidence to suggest MoP did. Every search for it only turns up hits of people asking if it's started, or hits for Cata F&F Alpha.
    Exactly!! There was proof of all other FF alphas except MoP.

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    He works for Blizzard so it makes sense they have internal testing going on. It doesn't mean there's a F&F alpha or beta available outside of developers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
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    Yet there is a guy in this thread claiming he was in the MoP F&F Alpha
    yeah I call bull on that until otherwise proven lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchbox2042 View Post
    He works for Blizzard so it makes sense they have internal testing going on. It doesn't mean there's a F&F alpha or beta available outside of developers.
    If he works for Blizzard than he would be smart enough to know the difference between an internal alpha which is employee only and a friend and family alpha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmaster View Post
    Nonsense, i can guarantee you that both MoP and Cataclysm had an F&F Alpha, how? Because i was in both of them....
    It's usually not that exciting with all the blue-white placeholder blocks around and most areas stil lclosed, but it's alpha nonetheless.
    MoP didn't have a F&F Alpha.

    I know because I would have played it.....which I didn't.

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    Elder Scrolls is having a big beta weekend - it'd be fairly standard practice for Blizz to use a closed beta announcement to step on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmaster View Post
    Nonsense, i can guarantee you that both MoP and Cataclysm had an F&F Alpha, how? Because i was in both of them....
    It's usually not that exciting with all the blue-white placeholder blocks around and most areas stil lclosed, but it's alpha nonetheless.
    And I can guarantee you that MoP DID NOT have a "Friends and Family" alpha. It had an internal Alpha build, yes but it was NOT accessible from outside Blizzard.
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    if the expansion is coming out anytime soon internal testing would of started a long time ago. just because there is no leaks doesn't mean testing isn't happening, it just means they have people in it who actually take the NDA seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Well too bad, even if the beta started today it would still be months of SoO.
    Except that you don't actually have to keep doing SoO or even keep playing WoW. I never understood the whole, "waaahh, X more months of [raid]!" Just cancel your subscription until about a month until the next expansion releases and, bam, no more need to complain about how long the final raid of an expansion lasts.
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  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    I really wish MMO Champ would ban the phrase F&F alpha. They havent had one in years. Theyve been going straight to beta yet people STILL keep talking about a F&F alpha
    Boubouille used the term in a MoP news post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belloc View Post
    Except that you don't actually have to keep doing SoO or even keep playing WoW. I never understood the whole, "waaahh, X more months of [raid]!" Just cancel your subscription until about a month until the next expansion releases and, bam, no more need to complain about how long the final raid of an expansion lasts.
    While I agree there's no point in complaining about it there's still plenty reason to be disappointed in it. No we don't have to keep doing SoO and yes we can go do something else until the next expansion releases but you really can't understand that some people would rather be doing new stuff in WoW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collected View Post
    Boubouille used the term in a MoP news post.
    Are you talking about this?

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1084187-Mists-of-Pandaria-Internal-Alpha-NAO-Invitational-Method-vs-Dragon-Soul?p=15574353

    He said that there would be a F&F alpha or a beta. It ended up being a Beta.

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