GTX 760 vs GTX 770

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Hello.
Im not sure if this topic has been discussed already but i am really interested in it.
I am going to build my first PC soon and im sort of stuck at the GPU.
Im curious if there is a BIG difference between GTX 760 and GTX 770 when it comes to raiding 25 / 20 mans on preferably ultra settings.I am also planning to stream and make videos.
Also id like to know how "futureproof" can this GPUs be and if i could still raid with a decent fps on medium/high settings in,lets say 3-4 years.
Is the GTX 770 going to run good with the Corsair Builder CX600 PSU ?
The GPU will be paired with an i5 4670 and 8GB RAM at 1600 mhz.

Thanks in advance!

[chazus]

Agreed. Just about anything over a 660 will not benefit WoW much, raiding included. Get the 760, and get a 4670K (And Z87 board and aftermarket cooler) and overclock it. THAT will get better raid performance. Also I would opt for an XFX 550, over the Corsair CX 600.

[Toffie]

Agreed. Just about anything over a 660 will not benefit WoW much, raiding included. Get the 760, and get a 4670K (And Z87 board and aftermarket cooler) and overclock it. THAT will get better raid performance. Also I would opt for an XFX 550, over the Corsair CX 600.

I agree.

If you're doing a new build then why not let us help pick the components?

Just answer these questions and you'll have a PC that suits everything you would need.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-build-Read-me!

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Does a "Z87" mobo doing better job than a "B85" when it comes to overclocking?Ive heared/seen that most of the mobos these days can overclock unlocked processors aswell, even if they B or H.
What about a gaming mobo, G1 Sniper B5 and an i5 4670k?It's a good combo?
If a "Z" mobo is a must then i can choose between Gigabyte Z87-HD3, MSI Z87-G41/G43 or an Asus Z87-K.What's the best from the ones listed?

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I agree.

If you're doing a new build then why not let us help pick the components?

Just answer these questions and you'll have a PC that suits everything you would need.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-build-Read-me!

Budget - The thing is that all components are pretty expensive in my country.For example if i make a 1000$ build on PCpartpicker,with the prices in my country everything goes up to around 1000 euros.
So my budget its 1000 euros or 4600 -5000 lei in my country currency.
Resolution - 1080p
Games / Settings Desired - Wow on ultra/high with nice fps during 25 / 20 man encounters.
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc) - Planning on streaming and making videos casually.
Country - Romania
Do you need an OS? - No.
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)? - Only a monitor, 21.6 or 23.6 inches preferably.

Id like to buy 90% of the parts from emag.ro and the case and memory ( 400r and vengeance 8GB ) from pcgarage.ro so id apreciate if you can make me a wishlist from those sites if not, a one from pcpartpicker its perfect aswell.

Thanks.

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I know very little about pc's, but I have the 760 and have yet to encounter any issues with it and i run everything on the highest settings, for its price its an absolute steal. Plus, free games!

[SlyPaws]

Hello.
Im curious if there is a BIG difference between GTX 760 and GTX 770 when it comes to raiding 25 / 20 mans on preferably ultra settings.I am also planning to stream and make videos.
Also id like to know how "futureproof" can this GPUs be and if i could still raid with a decent fps on medium/high settings in,lets say 3-4 years.
Thanks in advance!

Honestly, a lot of people have issues keeping a consistent 60fps in 25/20man raids with even the best gaming rigs. That's honestly just because of how Wow is coded so badly to run off the CPU. The CPU you are going to use will work great with either of those cards (Thank you for not wasting your money on an i7!!). And 8gb ram is perfect. As for the PSU, I love Corsair, I am running a 750w one right now with my 670GTX EVGA FTW gpu. They are really nice for wire management. Not sure about your choice though. look more into it.

Back to your choice in gpu; I would just go with the 770 (try for a 4gb model) just to help futureproof. You will be fine with that card for 5-6 years. My brother has the same exact rig as me and except he has the 660 and there is a slight noticeable difference in almost every other game except wow. We are both using i5 3570 cpu and very happy to maintain 50-60fps in 25mans with everything on ultra. Outside of raiding you will get consistent 60fps with ultra settings (shadows at ultra can mess things up in some areas of pandaria though.)

Hope this helps.

[chazus]

Does a "Z87" mobo doing better job than a "B85" when it comes to overclocking?Ive heared/seen that most of the mobos these days can overclock unlocked processors aswell, even if they B or H.

Z87 is only board that can realistically overclock. There was a bug with B85 boards that would allow it, but its long since been fixed.
There are Z77/Z75 boards which can, but that's old had. There are not currently any Z85 boards as far as I'm aware.

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Looking forward for a build recommended by Toffie or anyone else with the infos i filled few posts up.
Thanks.

PS: i don't want an SSD.

[Toffie]

I'm sorry but which places are you planning to order from?
Could you order from Germany?

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I'm sorry but which places are you planning to order from?
Could you order from Germany?

Unfortunate i am going to order from my country,Romania.I don't want to pay for it online via card,i don't trust it :P,so im ordering from my country so i can pay cash on delivery.
A pcpartpicker wishlist at around 1000 euros would be great.

EDIT:
I've made a setup myself,a couple of thoughts on it would be nice.

Memory : Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit
Case : Corsair Carbide 400R
Cooler : Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
HDD(don't want an SSD) : Hard disk WD Blue 1TB SATA-III 7200 RPM 64MB
PSU : Corsair Builder Series CX600 80 PLUS Bronze
CPU : Intel Core i5 4670K 3.4GHz box
Mobo : Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3
GPU : MSI GeForce GTX 760 Gaming Twin Frozr OC 2GB DDR5 256-bit or the Gigabyte version ?
Monitor : Asus VS247H-P 23.6 inch 2ms GTG Black

I already own a gaming mouse,keyboard,headsets/speakers.

I don't think im missing any crucial component into the setup,no ?

[Toffie]

From "emag.ro".
Might gone a little bit over budget, but definitely worth It.

http://i.imgur.com/rtlzpRV.png

Total = 4738 Lei

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That memory needs 1.65v @ 1600.

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Thanks Toffie.

That memory needs 1.65v @ 1600.

Whats the difference between 1.5V and 1.65V? Is there a big performance difference ?

[Daethz]

I have a 770gtx 4gb edition, and a i5 3570k and a 800w corsair modular psu.
I get between like 150 and 250fps in SoO in 10 mans, all settings maxxed.
At Ordos with like idk, 40-200 people I generally get down to a stable 20fps, but weirdly it dosent feel like 20fps, it feels more like 50-60fps, like you dont actually lag but it tells you your getting only 20fps.

And my GPU happens to self-overclock and reach like 1267mhz. I feel it was a good investment, can max out crysis 3 at 60fps, lower in some missions.
Assassins Creed Black flag is the only game my 770gtx has struggled on, TXAA takes up alot of power but its worth it, either way I don't experience half the lag I used to with my 550ti.

If you are only playing WoW, keep in mind WoW is a CPU heavy game, so the best choice, if your budget is locked, would be to get a 760gtx and a i7 cpu, though WoW only uses 2 cores so I would find a i7 cpu with more single core performance than the i5 4670k, cpuboss.com is good for this if nothing else. But always stuck with intel with nvidia cards and single core performance.

Edit: I just looked it up and Intel Core i7-4770K Quad-Core Processor appears to be #1 for single core performance.
Also you definitely want a Z87 motherboard if you ever plan on doing overclocking and or having multiple gpus.

[Toffie]

Thanks Toffie.



Whats the difference between 1.5V and 1.65V? Is there a big performance difference ?

Anything higher than 1.5v might cause problems with haswell, don't listen to him.

[DeltrusDisc]

Agreed. Just about anything over a 660 will not benefit WoW much, raiding included. Get the 760, and get a 4670K (And Z87 board and aftermarket cooler) and overclock it. THAT will get better raid performance. Also I would opt for an XFX 550, over the Corsair CX 600.

From what I can tell he was already planning on a 4670, so the K is only $10 more and I doubt he was planning on a super cheap motherboard, but most any Z87 board from ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte, or MSi will do. I can vouch for the GTX 760 being more than enough in WoW, the 770 has an extra kick in performance that you'd really only need if you're playing newer higher-graphics games at 1080p. 1440p is when I'd start looking more at a GTX 780 or higher.

Not sure what Caligulove meant by invest more in CPU, seeing how an i5-4670 is already extremely powerful for WoW at max settings, and $10 more for K will overclock and just dominate. An i7 would be a stupid purchase for a mainly WoW-running machine.

And yeah, screw the Corsair CX power supply, and no Corsair power supply, I'd advise the XFX like chazus or a SeaSonic Gold X Series.

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Ok,so i already bought the case,Corsair 400R and i just noticed that the case already have the "default" ATX 9 motherboard standoffs preinstalled.
Now my problem is that the mobo i plan to buy, the Gigabyte B85-HD3 only have 7 holes for the standoffs.Do i need to unscrew the 1* extra standoff in order for the mobo to not short itself?
*I say 1 standoff because the other one,from the top 3 can't be unscrewed because it's a "bump standoff".
Or i must find a new mobo that have 9 standoff holes?