Putin puts troops in western Russia on alert in drill

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Russia is backing 25th May referendum and calming separatists after talking to osce. A meeting Merkel organised. It's not hard.


It's not happening.

Didnt know you would so easily catch on Putins bluff,cheap as Cybran.Just as he urged thugs in Eastern Ukraine to post-pone referendum - nothing but a detour,a way to delay 3rd package.

You must have missed the last news of G7 energy ministers and policy makers planning in more ways to disarm Russia from it gas weapon this very year.
Wanna know how Anterwpen/Rotterdam is doing? Great,new pipelines and infrastructure is built this very moment,US are collegues suprised by our progress just as we were in Houston and Baltimore.
Have had few talks with TTIP folk in last few days - its approaching godspeed,will be signed by the end of 2016.

Just as new pipeline from North Africa and Azerbaijan is being constructed,just as new terminals in North-Eastern Europe are being built.

This is what Russia did when Lithuanians announced plans of stronger cooperation with USA gas companies.
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/6760...rad-201467603/
Still no explanations why they did it.

But yes,after long talks,Gazprom finally gave them the required price they shouldve been paying for last few years - only after EU threatened Gazprom with deeper and bloodier buttrape this year in courts.

It has already upset Russia and will continue to do.Get yourself new pair of pants.



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Second point is spot on.

[Ausr]

This is a reaction to what the US wants the world to think, that they ended the war. Look for example to a country like Holland, where cities were "liberated" by troops from different countries including Russia and Poland. Do you think these "non-western" troops are ever mentioned? No, only the US/UK/Canadian ones.

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Read better and don't try to crawl in Skroesec ass all the time. The next time he comes online he won't be coming back to the questions asked, the remarks made. He conveniently logs EVERY time someone attacks him...

Thanks for at least confirming that you do.

[Puupi]

Read better and don't try to crawl in Skroesec ass all the time. The next time he comes online he won't be coming back to the questions asked, the remarks made. He conveniently logs EVERY time someone attacks him...

How about stop attacking him?

[Keeponrage]

Ukraine military shoot civilians in Mariupol (Donetzk oblast')

4:25 they shoot a guy when he raised his arms. 7:05 guy in blue coat got shot, probably killed. 7.40- several more are wounded. 8.00 - a guy is killed, headshot most probably. You can hear people raging and and cursing in Russian there. No way Donetzk gonna be under Kiev after that and what happened in Odessa.

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Didnt know you would so easily catch on Putins bluff,cheap as Cybran.Just as he urged thugs in Eastern Ukraine to post-pone referendum - nothing but a detour,a way to delay 3rd package.

You must have missed the last news of G7 energy ministers and policy makers planning in more ways to disarm Russia from it gas weapon this very year.
Wanna know how Anterwpen/Rotterdam is doing? Great,new pipelines and infrastructure is built this very moment,US are collegues suprised by our progress just as we were in Houston and Baltimore.
Have had few talks with TTIP folk in last few days - its approaching godspeed,will be signed by the end of 2016.

Just as new pipeline from North Africa and Azerbaijan is being constructed,just as new terminals in North-Eastern Europe are being built.

This is what Russia did when Lithuanians announced plans of stronger cooperation with USA gas companies.
http://www.lithuaniatribune.com/6760...rad-201467603/
Still no explanations why they did it.

But yes,after long talks,Gazprom finally gave them the required price they shouldve been paying for last few years - only after EU threatened Gazprom with deeper and bloodier buttrape this year in courts.

It has already upset Russia and will continue to do.Get yourself new pair of pants.



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Second point is spot on.

Lol. Putin's bluff.
This is James bond material.
Anyway, diversification is great. Unfortunately eastern European countries rely fully on Russian resources. That's unacceptable and Europe needs to sort it out for you. They're doing it. Happy days, I'm agreeing with that.

What I don't agree is the call for isolation. Something that mccain for example blamed europe to not work on right in your own country.

oh and also, there is no way that anyone could supply the amount we get from russia at that price.
Diversification is needed as to bring eastern European countries to western standards. Other than that it hurts our economy so no thank you.

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Oh by the way that opinion piece you linked is horrendously biased.

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Ukraine military shoot civilians in Mariupol (Donetzk oblast')

4:25 they shoot a guy when he raised his arms. 7:05 guy in blue coat got shot, probably killed. 7.40- several more are wounded. 8.00 - a guy is killed, headshot most probably. You can hear people raging and and cursing in Russian there. No way Donetzk gonna be under Kiev after that and what happened in Odessa.

If you know Russian...
Hope Ukranian army gets there asap.

They are calling the dead man ''pidar'',stands for faggot.

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Lol. Putin's bluff.
This is James bond material.
Anyway, diversification is great. Unfortunately eastern European countries rely fully on Russian resources. That's unacceptable and Europe needs to sort it out for you. They're doing it. Happy days, I'm agreeing with that.

What I don't agree is the call for isolation. Something that mccain for example blamed europe to not work on right in your own country.

oh and also, there is no way that anyone could supply the amount we get from russia at that price.
Diversification is needed as to bring eastern European countries to western standards. Other than that it hurts our economy so no thank you.

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Oh by the way that opinion piece you linked is horrendously biased.

Its not James Bond material, analysts from various countries call it ''bluff,detour'' because thats what it is.

McCain is McCain,his goal is to troll around and boost Rep ratings.
Actually we pay vey,very high price for Russian gas, we could lower it by 20% easily due to Azebaijanian and US gas company talks,easily.
http://www.bne.eu/content/lithuanian-hawk-claims-russian-gas-discount
Gazprom agreed only Lithuanians promised not to ditch them asap after terminal is built.

Biased or not, second and third points are spot on.

[Bakis]

But after the annexation of Crimea - and the failure by Russia to act after the Geneva talks - the number of people prepared to trust Russia again is small.

Sums it up pretty good. Except for Djalil who would trust Putin if he claimed he could fart pigeons out his ass

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Everyone just cant wait to rush in to the arms of Russia the O`Holy!
http://glavcom.ua/news/204470.html

Donbass miners say they are willing to take up arms and fight with the terrorists. Said this today at a press conference in the " Commander in Chief " Miner mine "Russia" SE " Selidovugol " Alexander Gurov of Novogrodovka , who was among the trapped miners Donetsk separatists and deputies.

"If the government can not protect the people , it must be given the tools to the public. We are ready to defend ourselves , "- he said.

On the question of whether the miners are ready to organize a guerrilla movement , Gurov said, "Yes , the guerrilla movement , if there is no other way ."

Recall May 4 Novogrodovka militants captured six people. Among them were four miners who were tortured and beaten.

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Sums it up pretty good. Except for Djalil who would trust Putin if he claimed he could fart pigeons out his ass

Or anyone else that actually adds meanings to words. Like "failure from russia to act after geneva talks" what does that mean exactly Bakis? In your own words.

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Everyone just cant wait to rush in to the arms of Russia the O`Holy!
http://glavcom.ua/news/204470.html

That's civil war for you.
Negotiations between Kiev and separatists must start as soon as possible. Kiev won't bring piece by sending the army as we all can see.

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That's civil war for you.
Negotiations between Kiev and separatists must start as soon as possible. Kiev won't bring piece by sending the army as we all can see.

It did offer a chance of peace-talks,thugs answered with same old ''no legitimate power to talk,nazisfascistsomg'' non-sense.Kiev was offering an amnesty of sorts if they do give up.
If Ukranian army doesnt control those regions and if need be,introduces a curfew of sorts, worms from Slovyansk and Donetsk will get closer and closer to Kiev.They dont hide their intentions of saboting presidential elections and cock-blocking every decision made there.
I wont be suprised if long-term goal to cut off Ukraine from access to sea - having acces to Azov wont cut it, Russians can block or tax the small strait between now annexed Crimea and Russian mainland.

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It did offer a chance of peace-talks,thugs answered with same old ''no legitimate power to talk,nazisfascistsomg'' non-sense.Kiev was offering an amnesty of sorts if they do give up.
If Ukranian army doesnt control those regions and if need be,introduces a curfew of sorts, worms from Slovyansk and Donetsk will get closer and closer to Kiev.They dont hide their intentions of saboting presidential elections and cock-blocking every decision made there.
I wont be suprised if long-term goal to cut off Ukraine from access to sea.

When exactly did they offer such thing?
Lovely terminology. Worms.
Let me ask you, did you consider Maidan protesters, which basically did the same thing, worms too?

[Bakis]

Russia agreed to help defuse the situation and work for the separatists stopping their occupation of public buildings in return for amnesty.
Not a single public comment directed to them untill was it yesterday and it is probably just a try to avoid further EU sanctions which they know are coming due to Russias inability or unwillingness to act in accordance with the agreement.

Meanwhile Putins state tv cable out news after news praising the heroic "self defense force", seem odd..

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When exactly did they offer such thing?
Lovely terminology. Worms.
Let me ask you, did you consider Maidan protesters, which basically did the same thing, worms too?

http://www.timesofearth.com/world-ne...s-amnesty.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...buildings.html

They had their chance.


Yanukovitch GAVE HIS POWER AWAY!
Jesus,how many times do we have to repeat it? People have rights to request, for a corrupt asshole who broke his election campaign promises to sign Association Agreement with EU,to resign.
Yan introduced a police state laws in January of 16th and sent in cops to clean the place which was more or less peaceful before that day - after it it was clear that the bastard has gone nuts and he must resign.Only after that it become ''anti-Yanukovitch'' thing,he directly obeyed Kremlin.
The document he signed on the very day he fled,got to give it to Putin who basically called Yan a coward,had nothing about resigning him - it talked only about out-of-schedule elections and reforms in constitution.

[Jackmoves]

Putins recent U-turn seem quite logical now, his foreign policy is devastating for the Russian economy. ECB lowered the interest rates recently as some of you might know, one reason being the need for the Euro to depreciate. This is failing due to the immense capital flight from Russia, which of course was accelerated by the Russian involvement in Ukraine. In fact, it may be closer to $220 billion, this makes the Euro appreciate despite the lowered interest rates.

Edit: Sorry, they kept the rates at a record low.

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Russia agreed to help defuse the situation and work for the separatists stopping their occupation of public buildings in return for amnesty.
Not a single public comment directed to them untill was it yesterday and it is probably just a try to avoid further EU sanctions which they know are coming due to Russias inability or unwillingness to act in accordance with the agreement.

Meanwhile Putins state tv cable out news after news praising the heroic "self defense force", seem odd..

That might come as a surprise to you but geneva itself was a surprise agreement that Russia supported. Russia together with the west called for everyone to drop weapons:
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article...40418?irpc=932

Since then separatists haven't moved an inch and government is still sending troops.
How is this "russia failing to act upon geneva"?
Did we the west call for calm? Are we doing anything about those 3000 volunteers to join national guard?

the National Guard, founded in March, is based on the old Interior Ministry paramilitary force of 33,000, and will be augmented by some 3,000 volunteers. Some come from the "self-defence forces" involved in demonstrations early this year that eventually forced pro-Russian president Yanukovich to flee.

from reuters

This is clearly a step in the wrong way and a very dangerous one as such. Do you see the west condamning kiev for this?

[Jackmoves]

On the capital flight....

The European Central Bank says capital flight from Russia since the Ukraine crisis erupted may be four times higher than admitted by the Kremlin, a clear sign that sanctions pressure is inflicting serious damage on the Russian economy.

Mario Draghi, the ECB’s president, said the outflows from Russia have been large enough over recent weeks to push up the euro exchange rate, complicating monetary policy for the ECB.

“We had very significant outflows that have been estimated by some to be in the order of €160bn out of Russia,” he said, without specifying where the information came from.

This is equivalent to $222bn. It is the highest figure suggested so far by a senior official with access to confidential data. The Russian finance ministry said outflows had been just $51bn in the first quarter, though the total has almost certainly risen since then.

“Draghi’s figure is a huge amount. If this is correct, it shows that Russia is in much more trouble than people think,” said Tim Ash, from Standard Bank. “This is the same scale of outflows we saw in late 2008 after the Lehman crisis.”

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http://www.timesofearth.com/world-ne...s-amnesty.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...buildings.html

They had their chance.


Yanukovitch GAVE HIS POWER AWAY!
Jesus,how many times do we have to repeat it? People have rights to request, for a corrupt asshole who broke his election campaign promises to sign Association Agreement with EU,to resign.
Yan introduced a police state laws in January of 16th and sent in cops to clean the place which was more or less peaceful before that day - after it it was clear that the bastard has gone nuts and he must resign.Only after that it become ''anti-Yanukovitch'' thing,he directly obeyed Kremlin.
The document he signed on the very day he fled,got to give it to Putin who basically called Yan a coward,had nothing about resigning him - it talked only about out-of-schedule elections and reforms in constitution.

Maidan wanted political change without following correct procedure.
Same with separatists.

Yanukovich was a corrupt asshole. That would have been reflected on the elections that we're going to be held a few months from now.

[Bakis]

Djalil do you understand the concept of chronological order?
You do understand that the amnesty has been an option the entire time and for almost two weeks Russia havent lifted a finger to ease the situation and then you are suprised that Ukraine two fucking weeks later get tired of the separatists with Kremlins silent aproval and form a volunteer force, a force which I just like you would rather not see but I cant blame Kiev for getting tired of separatists with limited support.

Two week of silence from Kremlin mixed with encouragement for the separatists unavoidably leads to an escalation.

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On the capital flight....

The russian economy is among one of the more likely reasons for Kremlins 180 turn the past days.
Putler is getting increasingly concerned with the impact on the russian economy and this with only mild sanctions in place so far.
Doubt he was sincere though, I bet he just want to stall the implementation of new EU sanctions.
Two days before his 180 he called Kiev a junta, Putin plays the game well but he cant be trusted and soon even Merkel will come to that realisation

[Jackmoves]

The associated costs with the annexation of Crimea for the Russian State (taxpayers), is estimated to be 0, 5% of the GDP, higher pensions, administrative costs, etc. Thats around 2 million people. If Russia would annex the rebelling areas in the east, with roughly 13 million citizens this would obviously increase. Russia cant afford it without pushing the economy into recession.

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Djalil do you understand the concept of chronological order?
You do understand that the amnesty has been an option the entire time and for almost two weeks Russia havent lifted a finger to ease the situation and then you are suprised that Ukraine two fucking weeks later get tired of the separatists with Kremlins silent aproval and form a volunteer force, a force which I just like you would rather not see but I cant blame Kiev for getting tired of separatists with limited support.

Two week of silence from Kremlin mixed with support for the separatists unavoidably leads to an escalation.

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The russian economy is among one of the more likely reasons for Kremlins 180 turn the past days.
Putler is getting increasingly concerned with the impact on the russian economy and this with only mild sanctions in place so far.
Doubt he was sincere though, I bet he just want to stall the implementation of new EU sanctions.
Two days before his 180 he called Kiev a junta, Putin plays the game well but he cant be trusted and soon even Merkel will come to that realisation

That logic in that serie of events...