WoD: "Removed the ability to make cast-time CC spells instant with a cooldown."

[Glaziola]

I think they went a little too far in removing ccs, no disarms? No mention on nerfing mobility? Does not seems too good to me.

I love it as warrior/dk no more disarm!

[apepi]

I love it as warrior/dk no more disarm!

You understand if you are going to have a higher uptime, your damage might get reduced then?

[Demsi]

Wow, so many casters are crying right now, i`m sure melee wont stay as it is in WoD, and besides, it has been world of castercraft many years now, i think it is time for some change.

[apepi]

Wow, so many casters are crying right now, i`m sure melee wont stay as it is in WoD, and besides, it has been world of castercraft many years now, i think it is time for some change.

Um, It has been going back and forth, you know that right?

[Nakiri]

Finally some good changes at the Cooldowns and CC!!!
PvP will be really fun in WoD!!!

[Wow]

Um, It has been going back and forth, you know that right?

Not really the only time melee pop up is when they're overpowered if there's not a op melee its just a caster fest has been like this for years now.

[Matt0193]

Um, It has been going back and forth, you know that right?

The start of an expansion is typically Meleecraft as Melee benefit more from Weapon damage than Casters benefit from pure Spellpower but by the end of an expansion it's almost always Castercraft. Outside of Warriors in 2's and Rogues with Glaives, S4 was Wizardcraft. Outside of Smourne wielding Plates, S8 was dominated by Wizards. Outside of Dagger wielding Rogues with Vial, S11 was dominated by Wizards.

This is the first end-tier season where Wizards havn't dominated entirely, since Warriors, Rogues and Unholy Dks are all viable with Rogues and DK's scaling even better than Warriors.

[Flaks]

"Pet-cast CC is more limited, and in many cases has been removed." "Water Elemental Freeze is staying. "

Really mage keeps their pet cc the bias is still strong without gc I see.

Water Elemental should become a cd again.

[Pwellzor]

Not really the only time melee pop up is when they're overpowered if there's not a op melee its just a caster fest has been like this for years now.

BC Warriors win first half
Warlocks win second half
Wotlk DK's win... everything forever?
I don't even remember casters reigning?
Cata Wizardcleave is essentially trademarked
Rogues shit on everything in second half

Also, I've played TSG, Mixed comps like KFC, and Wizard cleave and god cleave.

From my experience spellcleaves are about 1000x harder to pull off.

[Wow]

BC Warriors win first half
Warlocks win second half
Wotlk DK's win... everything forever?
I don't even remember casters reigning?
Cata Wizardcleave is essentially trademarked
Rogues shit on everything in second half

Also, I've played TSG, Mixed comps like KFC, and Wizard cleave and god cleave.

From my experience spellcleaves are about 1000x harder to pull off.

I see you didn't understand anything I said and just wrote a reply anyway. And I bet you'll write another still not getting it.

[Spl4sh3r]

I think they went a little too far in removing ccs, no disarms? No mention on nerfing mobility? Does not seems too good to me.

Well removing Disarm and removing Silence is pretty close, so it is sort of balanced by removing both. I know that some silence will still exist, like the Moonkin beam spell

[Seditian]

Nope it stays. Just because hunters are meant to be sick i guess...

You crack me up. They already removed scatter shot and their silence. Wyvern Sting shares DR with Trap, hunter CC chain won't be a problem anymore, it's max 10 seconds. Instead of Scatter > Trap > silence > wyvern, which was about 19 seconds against casters.

[apepi]

Well removing Disarm and removing Silence is pretty close, so it is sort of balanced by removing both. I know that some silence will still exist, like the Moonkin beam spell

But silence is not getting removed, and removing silence/disarm is not what I want. I want the to remove blanket silence and make silence stop people from casting instants.

[Deleted]

WTB shorter duration to instant AoE fears.

[Verain]

All fears will be six seconds in wod.

[Blithe]

Water Elemental should become a cd again.

It has a cooldown, you just have to kill it before they use it again.

[Zervek]

Please welcome our supreme melee overlords!

[Scott Dark]

While all of this is fun speculation, however, I see a HUGE issue with threads like these... Pretty much EVERYTHING is getting overhauled from DPS cds, instant casts resilience/damage output (bursting), and ccs, It's practically impossible to make an informed decision as we have pretty much nothing on how classes will work with all of the removed abilities and the like.

Honestly, any form of complaining like x class will beat x class easier or whatever is just a guess as things are going to be changing drastically.

[Prag]

All I can say is, I love the direction it's going in. No idea how well they'll execute it, but their ideas and logic are something I'm finding agreeable and sound like they're trying to levy the frustrations I think a lot of people have with PvP atm.

[Serissa]

World of Meleecraft: Warlords of Draenor.

Better than World of Magecraft: Mists of Pandaria.

Please welcome our supreme melee overlords!

Now you will have to show your real skill. Not just "fear dot-dot-dot fear dot-dot-dot feardot-dot-dot".