Keybinding tips? Too many abilities, too few keys

[Mashugana]

Wow - I keep checking this thread and learning more. Thank you all. My Naga came in the mail today. Going to set it up tonight

[Braven]

As a Survival Hunter;

1 - Serpent Sting
2 - Explosive Shot
3 - Black Arrow
4 - Glaive Shot
5 - Arcane Shot
6 - Dire Beast
7 - Intimidation

Q - Cobra Shot
E - Disengage
F - Feign Death
X - Kill Shot
Shift + Q - Multi Shot
Shift + E - Misdirection
Shift F - Deterrence

Shift + 1 - Counter Shot
Shift + 2 - Explosive Trap (w/ Trap Launcher active)
Shift + 3 - Freezing Trap (w/ Trap Launcher active)
Shift + 4 - Ice Trap (w/ Trap Launcher active)
Shift + 5 - Snake Trap (w/ Trap Launcher active)
Middle-Mouse-Button - Mend Pet

That's my basic set up. I've been meaning to edit my Shift 3-8 some. I do have things linked up to 8 on the normal bar and on shift, but I very more likely will click them than type them.

In general, the majority of my keybinds are universal through all of my characters. For instance:
I always keep my interrupt on Shift-1.
F or Shift-F is usually something relating to movement (Hunter is my exception as they don't have any speed buffs).
Q and Middle Mouse are the keybinds I hit the most (Q is taunt on my tanks and Middle Mouse is Dragon Roar/Death Grip/etc).
Shift-Q is always my AoE attack.
E and Shift-E usually some type of extra combat ability that I couldn't fit somewhere else but that I still need often (Disengage/Misdirection/Gorefiend's Grasp/Death&Decay/etc)
Finally, X is always my finisher or strongest ability: Kill Shot/Execute/Killing Spree/Dancing Rune Weapon.


P.S. While it's not a keybind, since returning to WoW after Christmas of this year I've started a habit of putting all of my buffs on the right action bars and hitting them quickly with my mouse, since that's usually where my mouse hangs out anyway. This was especially necessary with my warrior, due to how many buff they have.

[Nihilan]

I never really given much thought to how many key binds I've ended up using over the last decade (god, so much time lost to this game). However, seeing how other people roll has made me start thinking that maybe I... have a lot of key binds. I use the same bind template for each of my characters, but for my hunter this is my map.

Bar 1
1, Serpent Sting
2, Kill Command
3, Arcane Shot
4, Cobra Shot
q, Kill Shot
e, Concussion Shot
r, Tranq Shot
f, Distracting Shot
MB4, Camo
MB3, Disengage
Sft-Alt-MW Up, Deterrence
Sft-Alt MW Down, Feign Death

Bar 2
Sft-1, Glaive Toss
Sft-2, Frenzy
Sft-3, Exp Trap
Sft-4, Multishot
Sft-q, Counter Shot
Sft-e, Scatter Shot
Sft-r, Widow Venom
Sft-f, Scare Beast
Sft-MB4, Flare
Sft-MB3, PvP Trinket (Slot not used in PvE unless I'm running Exhilaration talent for soloing old content)
Sft-MW Up, Eng Gloves+Bestial Wrath Macro
Sft-MW Down, Rapid Fire+Stamp Macro

Bar3
Alt-1, Misdirection Macro
Alt-2, Mend Pet
Alt-3, Health Stone
Alt-4, Health Pot
Alt-q, Eng Boots
Alt-e, Glider
Alt-r, NA for this Char
Alt-f, NA for this Char
Alt-MB4, NA for this Char
Alt-MB3, NA for this Char
Alt-MW Up, Snake Trap
Alt-MW Down, Trap Launcher Toggle


Bar 4
Cnt-1, Pet Attack
Cnt-2, Pet Return
Cnt-3, Pet Go-To
Cnt-4, Pet Ability 1
Cnt-q, Pet Ability 2
Cnt-e, Pet Ability 3
Cnt-r, Res Pet
Cnt-f, Dismiss Pet
Cnt-MB4, PTT Button for Voice Coms
Cnt-MB3, Master's Call
Cnt-MW Up, Freezing Trap
Cnt-MW Down, Ice Trap


Bar 5
Cnt-Alt-1, Mount 1 (Ground)
Cnt-Alt-2, Mount 2 (Flyer)
Cnt-Alt-3, Mount 3 (Flyer)
Cnt-Alt-4, Hearthstone
Cnt-Alt-q, Aspect of the Hawk/Ironhawk
Cnt-Alt-e, Aspect of the Cheetah
Cnt-Alt-r, Aspect of the Pack
Cnt-Alt-f, Set/Clear Focus Target
Cnt-Alt-MB4, Misc toy button
Cnt-Alt-MB3, Misc toy button
Cnt-Alt-MW Up, Battle Horn (For aoe pulls/farming)
Cnt-Alt-MW Down, War Banner (The lizard taunt thingy, cant remember name)

56 Keybinds D=

[Deleted]

Q,E,R,T,Y,F,G,C,V,1,2,3,4,5,Mouse side1,Mouse side2,Mouse Scroll up,Mouse Scroll down
With Cnt
With Shift. So there's plenty keybingings, still learning how to use ALT modifier

Only thing i haven't bound is Eagle Eye (herecy i know!)

[Mashugana]

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In general, the majority of my keybinds are universal through all of my characters. For instance:
I always keep my interrupt on Shift-1.
F or Shift-F is usually something relating to movement (Hunter is my exception as they don't have any speed buffs).
Q and Middle Mouse are the keybinds I hit the most (Q is taunt on my tanks and Middle Mouse is Dragon Roar/Death Grip/etc).
Shift-Q is always my AoE attack.
E and Shift-E usually some type of extra combat ability that I couldn't fit somewhere else but that I still need often (Disengage/Misdirection/Gorefiend's Grasp/Death&Decay/etc)
Finally, X is always my finisher or strongest ability: Kill Shot/Execute/Killing Spree/Dancing Rune Weapon.

Thank you for sharing the logic behind the bindings - this is really helpful for alts. For example, in every game I play C has always been my self heal. I like how you use that same logic elsewhere.

[Revi]

Don't know enough about hunters to give a proper suggestion,
but here are my action bars:

| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | g | f | q | e | <-- modifier: Alt
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | g | f | q | e | <-- modifier: Ctrl
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | g | f | q | e | <-- modifier: Shift
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | g | f | q | e | <-- no modifier

top row is reserved for things that are not critical in combat, because it's a bit harder to use in a rotation with the alt modifier. slot 6 is never used, too far away to push while using WASD.

[RuneeBH]

I play A(stafe left) S(forward) D(strafe right) and X(backward) - I use a naga..
(I play a Brewmaster)
1-keg smash
2-jab
3-tiger palm
4-blackout kick
5-kick
6-guard
7-breath of fire
8-taunt
9-chi wave
10-roll
11-statue
12-throw keg

then I have

Shift 1-12 for lesser used abilities..not gnna list them
q,w,e,r,f,v,c,z all bound to important stuff.
shift q,w,e,r,f,v,c,z.
mb4, mb5
shift mb4, mb5.
ctrl mb4, mb5.
mousewheel up/down
shift mousewheel up/down
ctrl 1-12
f1-f5
keep in mind, this is all right at your thumb. Naga will make your binding much easier..theres even more possibilities if you work in alt 1-12.
Really, with a naga you'll have too many binding options, so just find the most comfortable ones.

[Deleted]

I'm currently using over 33 keybinds on my hunter, i do this via a combination of, 12 Button mouse, Shift modifiers, and i remove strafe from E and Q and put them on A and D which frees up 2 extra buttons. I don't use alt, i use Ctrl on other classes occasionally.

My first tip would be to use number keys for less used stuff like cool downs i.e rapid fire and such, makes it easier over all for you to use shift modifiers as your hand is situated lower, also pretty much any key I'm using also is being used with a shift keybind too so for instance i have Q for Serpent string, S-Q is Black arrow for Surv etc.

[eschatological]

I think the takeaway lesson of this thread is have some sort of gaming mouse with extra buttons. A 3 or even 5 button mouse just won't cut it. ..

I'm only half joking too. I honestly don't know how I played before having a Naga. I guess there were just less abilities back then. Maybe Razer conspired with Blizzard to bloat abilities to all more mice, who knows.

Also, do keep in mind Dela's tip, some abilities are better as mouse clicks on a frame, for hunters this includes misdirection, Masters call, and roar of sacrifice [in pvp]. For other classes, this might include all paladin hands, most healing spells, lay on hands, soulstone/rebirth, life grip., etc.

[Illana]

no need for a gaming mouse, you can get almost all the keybinds you need (unless you're a very serious arena player) just using alt,ctrl and shift modifiers.

[Deleted]

F1-F4 = Pet 1-4
` = Symbiosis
1 = Serpent Sting
2 = Arcane Shot
3 = Steady Shot
4 = Chimera Shot
5 = Multi Shot
Q = Concussive Shot
E = Master's call party1 or healer
R = Kill Shot
T = Deterrence
Y = Mount macro
S = RoS party1 or healer
F = Glaive Toss
G = Tranq Shot
H = Revive Pet
Z = Wyvern Sting or Binding Shot
X = Freezing Trap
C = Silencing Shot
V = Disengage
B = pet attack
shift 1 = Hunter's Mark
shift 2 = Explosive Trap
shift 3 = Scare Beast
shift 4 = Bandage and Healthstone
shift 5 = Snake Trap
shift Q = Burst macro with RF trinkets etc
shift E = Aimed Shot
shift R = Camouflage
shift T = Feign Death
shift Y = Mount
shift S = RoS dps partner
shift F = Stampede
shift G = Widow Venom
shift H = Mend Pet
shift Z = Focus Wyvern Sting
shift X = Rapid Fire
shift C = Focus Silencing Shot
ctrl 1 = Focus arena1
ctrl 2 = Focus arena2
ctrl 3 = Focus arena3
ctrl Q = Bullheaded
ctrl E = Master's call dps partner
ctrl R = Pet move to
ctrl S = RoS target
ctrl F = pet follow
ctrl G = focus tranq shot
alt 1 = Dismiss Pet
alt 2 = growl macro
alt 3 = Flare
alt Q = Focus Concussive Shot
alt E = Master's Call self
alt S = RoS self
alt X = Ice Trap
Mouse up = target arena1
mouse down = target arena2
shift mouse down = target arena3
shift mouse up = aspect swap macro
middle mouse = trinket
shift middle mouse = racial, blood fury, wotf etc
mouse 5 = scatter shot
shift mouse 5 = focus scatter
mouse 4 = pet ability, monkey stun etc
shift mouse 4 = focus pet ability

That's 67 I think. If I use my naga, I have scatter arena1,2,3 and silence 1,2,3 and wyvern 1,2,3, but I don't play much atm to warrant it. This doesn't include W,A and D for movement, up arrow for autorun, marker/buff macro, stuff like that.

This is on a laptop keyboard atm, kinda sucks compared to my MK-85 I have at home, as it's really small, but meh, it works.

So yeah, hopefully that's some inspiration!

[BergErr]

I think the takeaway lesson of this thread is have some sort of gaming mouse with extra buttons. A 3 or even 5 button mouse just won't cut it. ..

I'm only half joking too. I honestly don't know how I played before having a Naga. I guess there were just less abilities back then. Maybe Razer conspired with Blizzard to bloat abilities to all more mice, who knows.

Too bad the nagas is so damn small (like all razer mice, made for small children :/)

I use:
§-6
q-t
a-h
z-v
3 buttons on the mouse and alt+shift+ctrl modifiers for most.
I still click few things though (tranq shot, widow venom, res pet, dismiss pet, camoflage, fd)

[Deleted]

I agree the buttons are small but its something you have to adjust to, especially if you haven't been using mice with more than 3 buttons before

[ComputerNerd]

no need for a gaming mouse, you can get almost all the keybinds you need (unless you're a very serious arena player) just using alt,ctrl and shift modifiers.

That requires dexterity that is simply beyond some players.
It is too easy for someone to say that because they can do it, but the whole reason that the Naga/G600 etc sell is that not everyone can.

[Illana]

That requires dexterity that is simply beyond some players.
It is too easy for someone to say that because they can do it, but the whole reason that the Naga/G600 etc sell is that not everyone can.

I'd actually find it harder to try and use 12 buttons with my thumb >.> the misclicks on buttons that small with an appendage so big just seems almost uncontrollable.

[Deleted]

I'd actually find it harder to try and use 12 buttons with my thumb >.> the misclicks on buttons that small with an appendage so big just seems almost uncontrollable.

Same for me, I found it much easier to adapt to using ctrl mods, as well as shift/alt, than adapting to using the small thumb buttons on a Naga. Maybe that's just me though, I have quite big hands...

[eschatological]

I have pianist fingers, so the Naga works well for me.

Thanks super Asian genes!

[Alvito]

I would suggest trying to use, `4t mix those in with what you have and start using shift and alt modifiers and you will have plenty of keys and it will allow you to keybind macros also.

[Nihilan]

I'm a pretty big guy and i find the Naga feels like a kids toy. I have long fingers so my hand sits at the very back of the mouse putting only the last three side buttons within reach of my thumb. To hit any of the higher side buttons requires lifting my palm and basically moving the whole hand which is just annoying.

WTB adult sized Naga mouse or equivalent. (Or at least one that doesn't feel like it was designed for the exclusive use of 15 year olds.)

My last several mice have all been these tiny little things and i guess i have just resigned myself to their use. Are there any larger gaming/multibutton mice out there that have the side buttons farther back towards the palm rest?

[Mashugana]

Thanks again - I've implemented a lot of these suggestions and the muscle memory is building. Also:

Thanks super Asian genes!

That would make a great bumper sticker or t-shirt