Why do we condemn pedophiles and accept homosexuals?

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[Shinra1]

Aren't homosexuals getting a lot of crap from religious people and in many less advanced countries? Saying mankind accepts them is wrong. Pedophilia is accepted in certain cultures where they marry and bed children at that.

I accept homosexuality because I see nothing but love between the people I know of that sexual orientation. Between a pedophile and child, there is no such thing, not even consent.

This is not true.

First of all in the educated sense the term is not just consent it's called informed consent to show that the person fully understands the consequences of their decisions.

Secondly many young children are capable of making informed consent claiming that all children are incapable of that is ludicrous certainly babies and toddlers, I agree with you but anything over 10 can make informed consent.

[Revi]

This question boils down to "Why do we condemn rapists and accept consensual sex?"

If you really can't figure it out, the consensual part is important. And according to law, anyone under the legal limit CAN NOT under any circumstance give consent, meaning every pedophile that acts on their desire is raping children.

Pedophilia in itself doesn't hurt anyone if you never, ever seek satisfaction. But humans aren't made to suppress their sexuality for a lifetime, meaning the risk of a pedophile using child pornography or worse, is extremely high. Thus every pedophile, whether or not they've acted on it, is seen as a major threat to children and stigmatized accordingly.

[Velaniz]

We don't accept homosexuality either when a homosexual act occurs between an adult and a minor. OP, you're just categorizing all sexual deviations as one without regard for the fact that there are finer subtleties as to why they aren't all viewed the same way.

There's also a difference between pedophilia as the state of being attracted to pre-pubescents, and the crime of committing a pedophilic act. The former is doing nothing wrong, and just because you happened to have been born with proclivities more socially acceptable doesn't give you any right to condemn them for theirs. I see no problem with erotica/cartoon porn/sex dolls/etc being catered towards pedophiles so they have an outlet for their urges. People are going to be instinctively averse to such a thing anyway, but the whole point is that there is no actual child on the victim's end in all of the aforementioned.

[Coraulten]

Because people do not know what pedophile means apparently. Pedophile and child molestation are not the same thing.

[Revi]

Secondly many young children are capable of making informed consent claiming that all children are incapable of that is ludicrous certainly babies and toddlers, I agree with you but anything over 10 can make informed consent.

It's a simple fact that a 10 year old's brain isn't developed enough to fully consider the consequences or even understand them. This is a horribly uninformed (and scary) opinion to hold.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Were you one of the kids at school that if anyone stood up for homosexuality you would be like "omg you're gay!"

I don't get why people even put pedophiles and homosexual people in the same box to begin with.

[Vyxn]

No. They need to seek help if they have urges to act on their preference. The Psychological help is there to help stop them acting on them.

do people who fantasies about rape need help? many couples men and women act out rape fantasies. being the rapeist and or wanting to be the one raped

[Velaniz]

No sane adult should be turned on by one or want to have sex with them.

Well, they're not sane. They're afflicted with a disorder that warps their sexual tendencies.

[Deleted]

Being black and gay doesn't mean you're sexually attracted to a child. I don't care how many times you try to break it down to make it seem like being a pedophile is fine and normal; it's not. It's a child. No sane adult should be turned on by one or want to have sex with them.

I'm perfectly sane and I do. What now?

[Vyxn]

I don't get why people even put pedophiles and homosexual people in the same box to begin with.

they are both labeled as sexual orientations other then that the comparison stops

[Notchris]

This thread is a special sort of WTF.

[Terminal Lance]

There's zero way to prove that someone is a pedophile without action. You can say you're a pedophile until your ass bleeds, but until you prove it, in my eyes, you' may as well just be an astronaut.

Now your just being ignorant. If you have nothing smart to input, just leave the thread.

[Queen of Hamsters]

This is not true.

First of all in the educated sense the term is not just consent it's called informed consent to show that the person fully understands the consequences of their decisions.

Secondly many young children are capable of making informed consent claiming that all children are incapable of that is ludicrous certainly babies and toddlers, I agree with you but anything over 10 can make informed consent.

And those are the arguments the child molesters use, frequently.. The laws are there to protect the children, I have yet to see a court accept that a 12-year old or lower of age was "in on it" with a grown man.

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because it does hurt the child in the long run

you answer to your question and about those that they are non-acting pedophiles im sure all of them waching porn with 15 year old kids even less

[Itisamuh]

Maybe it would be more fair to compare it to being attracted to young teenagers, rather than little kids. Teenagers are physically able and usually know damn well what they are doing, yet because the law says otherwise, we are supposed to frown upon it.

[obdigore]

do people who fantasies about rape need help? many couples men and women act out rape fantasies. being the rapeist and or wanting to be the one raped

Your ignorance about how two consenting adults playing out a fantasy is different from actual rape (see: consent) and actually wanting to rape someone is almost as towering as your ignorance in relation to economics. How enlightening. Are you this uninformed about everything in life, or just the stuff you choose to discuss on these forums?

But yes, anyone that wants to actually rape another person, against their will, should seek psychiatric help, just like anyone who wants to have sex with a pre-pubescent human.

[Queen of Hamsters]

I'm perfectly sane and I do. What now?

I hope you never act on it physically or by supporting the repulsive market that is child pornography.

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summon sylph

Summoning complete!

[glowzone]

Maybe another example will help for those that don't understand the diffrence between thinking and acting.

A rather big amount of hetrosexual women and men have rape fantasies (not all equally harmful, but still rape), yet most of these will never act on it.

Would you say these people are disgusting, need to be watched and are one foot away from jail?