Child Bride Kills Husband and his 3 buddies

[Saradain]

Well, she isn't free. She will probably be killed for what she did. She killed 4 people. She chose death, not freedom. Now for the other questions. If she didn't intend to kill them all, she didn't have to poison the feast. The celebration happened a full week After the marriage. So she was obviously alone with him for a full week. I'm sure he had to sleep sometime. If she really only wanted him dead, she had a week prior to do it. She also could have simply run away. She was allowed to go to the market, where she bought the poison. She obviously wasn't supervised or no one cared enough to bother to ask her what she needed the poison for.

Not to mention we don't know to what extent the others may or may not have participated in the marriage of the girl and the guy. She also killed a women, someone who may have been in the very same situation as her but just accepted her fate. Point is, she had chances to get away, to kill only him, but she ignored them to try and kill over a dozen people. She was not in a life threatening situation, so survival instincts do not come into play here. If they were, she probably wouldn't have killed him and 3 others at the party just to get arrested and probably killed.

She would, should, and could have done many things...I hardly think that anyone could think straight when they're young, alone and terrified about their coming doom. And we'll probably never know. I'll keep dreaming about a world where my vision of justice and human rights is the only norm, so every human being has the right to be free and live a happy life, shaped by their OWN choices. Can't really argue much more about this, we could go on all night and not reach a conclusion.

Maybe one day, they'll abandon zealotry based on a holy book/whatever other reasons they have that justifies all this to them and start to think about individual feelings.

Until that day, I will fight for my beliefs and ideals, and I'll put up one hell of a fight.

[Hooked]

Technically she wasn't kidnapped, the marriage with this man was most likely arranged by her parents, as that is what the law states has to happen for a 14 year old to be married. Wouldn't you say her parents are more to blame than the husband in question? Would you also condone her killing her parents as well because they arranged the whole thing ?

Attempting to kill 14 people because you aren't in love with the man your parents forced you to marry doesn't sound like my kind of justice.

Not only that but her own parents probably also had an arraigned marriage. Nah this girl was just evil, plain and simple.

[Eldar45]

Your post is full of bigoted racist arguments.

He did not once in his post mention anything racist. And in this situation being bigoted is a good thing.

The act of marrying off children to men who they have never met is no different than the children sex-slave trade. She was being forced to live and have sexual relations with a man that she didn't want to have anything to do with. That is rape and slavery. Her family should be thrown in jail for selling their daughter into slavery, the "husband" castrated and thrown in jail for life.\

I'm not sad that scum like this are dead. Not everyone that lives deserves life. I don't advocate killing people unless under extreme circumstances, but in this situation the girl was justified. I'm not sure I agree with poisoning all those people, but I don't know the entire situation so I won't comment on the collateral damage.

This girl had one way out, and she took it. I'd be proud of her for trying.

[satimy]

arranged marriage is no less evil than slavery in my eyes, The only mistake this girl made in my eyes was not fleeing the country after she spiked the punch and seeking asylum in Europe.

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Not only that but her own parents probably also had an arraigned marriage. Nah this girl was just evil, plain and simple.

So if your parents sell you as a sex slave when you're 8 its ok? Thats the dumbest logic ever. The fact that the parents approved this is a sign of a primitive culture, not a morally right choice.

[Ragnarohk]

He did not once in his post mention anything racist. And in this situation being bigoted is a good thing. The act of marrying off children to men who they have never met is no different than the children sex-slave trade.

This girl had one way out, and she took it.

Maybe I read too much into it, but I understood that he implied that all of those men had raped girls before because they were nigerian/muslim

Also, no, it's not good to act bigoted. The point is to try and analize the situation with a rational mind.

[Mormolyce]

The man had not yet committed a crime, we do not know his intentions and course of action (Hell, he could have been the nicest person in the world that married a young girl for the sake of tradition, we will never know)

I imagine she knew.

And seriously, you think this kind of marriage is ever platonic?

Some people are more loose with the term murder and use it as a synonym of the word kill. IMO it's murder when the killing is unjustified. If someone is holding you against your will and raping you, to me that falls under justifiable homicide. As far as killing the guys buddies I guess that would depend on how complacent they were in letting the actions take place.

If someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and I hit them in the face with a baseball bat and they die. I didn't murder them.

Unless they were black.

[Hooked]

arranged marriage is no less evil than slavery in my eyes, The only mistake this girl made in my eyes was not fleeing the country after she spiked the punch and seeking asylum in Europe.

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So if your parents sell you as a sex slave when you're 8 its ok? Thats the dumbest logic ever. The fact that the parents approved this is a sign of a primitive culture, not a morally right choice.

Im saying that's just life in Nigeria. To them that's normal. I would imagine these things are done because the people are poor and arraigned marriages are one way to ensure their daughter will not starve.

[Teebone]

Not only that but her own parents probably also had an arraigned marriage. Nah this girl was just evil, plain and simple.

Do you even remember being 14? I'd bet if you did... your 14-year-old self is telling you to shut up.

Teens make bad decisions. This was one. She was in a position of never being free, a child wife. Tell me, what alternative would you offer in said situation? I don't see ANYONE in this thread even considering being in that kid's shoes.

If my choices were forced sexual servitude/domestic slavery or murder, I'd go with murder. No one wants to suffer alone.

[TirielWoW]

I think we can only assume what she was thinking, but because so many people were poisoned, I'm going to assume she was okay with collateral damage as long as her husband was dead.

I think it's entirely possible that she blamed the attendees for her situation (especially if they were family/friends of the unwanted husband, or even her own family who forced her into the marriage.

[Karaoke]

So if your parents sell you as a sex slave when you're 8 its ok? Thats the dumbest logic ever. The fact that the parents approved this is a sign of a primitive culture, not a morally right choice.

The parents were following their customs/culture, while the girl committed a known crime. How is that dumb logic?

[TirielWoW]

The parents were following their customs/culture, while the girl committed a known crime. How is that dumb logic?

Sometimes things are wrong, regardless of the cultural circumstance. Selling your children into a forced marriage is wrong, even if the culture supports it. Forcing your daughter to be circumcised is wrong, even if the culture encourages/supports it.

Does that make murder right? No. But I'm not seeing a lot of options for her.

[Karaoke]

I think it's entirely possible that she blamed the attendees for her situation (especially if they were family/friends of the unwanted husband, or even her own family who forced her into the marriage.

It's totally possible. Whatever her reasoning, I don't think it's a wild assumption to believe she intended to hurt more people than just her husband.

[Mormolyce]

it isn't pedophilia, look up the definition and start using the word correctly. It is a cultural thing and calling them evil because of it is bigoted. The only thing wrong with the situation was that she was forced into marriage.

What HE was talking about was pedophilia. Go back and read what I was replying to.

Besides which, he admitted it.

[Hooked]

Do you even remember being 14? I'd bet if you did... your 14-year-old self is telling you to shut up.

Teens make bad decisions. This was one. She was in a position of never being free, a child wife. Tell me, what alternative would you offer in said situation? I don't see ANYONE in this thread even considering being in that kid's shoes.

If my choices were forced sexual servitude/domestic slavery or murder, I'd go with murder. No one wants to suffer alone.

Yeah at 14 I was a punk. I was hardly a child at 14, I was sophomore at 14/15.

[satimy]

The parents were following their customs/culture, while the girl committed a known crime. How is that dumb logic?

Its dumb logic to justify right and wrong based on tradition. Then you go a step further and say that because the parents were acting rationally, the girl mustve been evil. Were slaves that killed their masters just evil, I mean slavery was a tradition for 10,000 years. If the answer is no, than you will understand the point.

[Hooked]

Its dumb logic to justify right and wrong based on tradition. Then you go a step further and say that because the parents were acting rationally, the girl mustve been evil. Were slaves that killed their masters just evil, I mean slavery was a tradition for 10,000 years. If the answer is no, than you will understand the point.

Yes they were.

[Gungtah]

Do you even remember being 14? I'd bet if you did... your 14-year-old self is telling you to shut up.

Teens make bad decisions. This was one. She was in a position of never being free, a child wife. Tell me, what alternative would you offer in said situation? I don't see ANYONE in this thread even considering being in that kid's shoes.

If my choices were forced sexual servitude/domestic slavery or murder, I'd go with murder. No one wants to suffer alone.

Men, what bastards.

We should also root out rape in prisons, that way convicts don't create social circles to protect themselves.

Or maybe rape can actually protect people in less than ideal circumstances. Who knows. I think it's weird how Westerners define themselves by their sexuality and sexual activity rather than "Oh I live in NIGERIA." We don't know the circumstances, only that "she did not love him".

Heterosexual prisoners disagree with you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_..._relationships

[TirielWoW]

It's totally possible. Whatever her reasoning, I don't think it's a wild assumption to believe she intended to hurt more people than just her husband.

Oh, no, I agree with you on that. Then again, I'm not entirely convinced she actually had the option to run away. First, where would she go? Second, Nigeria (at least the Muslim areas) is under Sharia, which means she almost certainly had an escort to that Market when she bought the rat poison. But buying rat poison wouldn't have likely raised eyebrows anyway because pests are a serious problem, and that's one of the few ways to deal with them.

[Speaknoevil]

I hope more people follow her example.

It's unfortunate that people in power don't put these "cultures" to an end, and she will likely be punished for doing the right thing.

[Karaoke]

Sometimes things are wrong, regardless of the cultural circumstance. Selling your children into a forced marriage is wrong, even if the culture supports it. Forcing your daughter to be circumcised is wrong, even if the culture encourages/supports it.

Does that make murder right? No. But I'm not seeing a lot of options for her.

Become a spokesperson against the injustice you've faced.
Write a book or speak with others to inspire change to happen.
Make a positive change instead of fixing a wrong with another wrong.

What if any great leader in history had taken this girl's option? What if Martin Luther King decided to beat up or murder white people who discriminated against him?

She had the option to become someone great and inspire others to create change, and she instead killed people.

I know I'm being overly dramatic here, but she had choices. Choosing the easy way out isn't something to commend her on.