Child Bride Kills Husband and his 3 buddies

[Noomz]

And thus we revert back to my first post.

But no, I really wouldn't be. If you indoctrinate someone from birth, there's a really great chance they'll internalize it.



200 years ago the idea that maybe it wasn't OK to own slaves was a novel concept. Your values aren't the product of you being Magical Ethics Man who's just superbly ethical in all regards, but of the culture you were exposed to. While it's really easy to condemn and judge people with different values than you as somehow being deficient, to ignore that you're in large part the product of your environment while doing so is ridiculous.

Wouldn't that work in the reverse as well? Is this really what humans are reduced to? Is this seriously as good as humans get, just because they can't go to school? That's mindblowingly tragic.

Saying that their values are different implies that their "values" have merit and should for some reason be respected or not questioned. I hope that's not what you mean, because that would upset me.
I will judge them and I will condemn them, because what they are and what they do, goes against what I consider basic human dignity. Something I sincerely hope that we still have, even if we live in the poorest place.

[Deleted]

they will probably execute her and people might try to get her parents also

She won't be killed.

[Deleted]

So any chance of hardship within a marriage is justification for murder. I sincerely hope you never get married.

Comparing forced marriage to voluntary marriage where both parties want to get married? Yeah, okay.

[Sky High]

So any chance of hardship within a marriage is justification for murder. I sincerely hope you never get married.

well I never plan on forcing 14 year old to marry me when I'm 35 if that's what you're getting at. if you really think it's that much a stretch for abuse to take place then I hope YOU never get married.

[Twilight Cultist]

Both are bad options. But its a choice between a bad marriage or 3 dead bodies? Yeah I think I know which one I would take.

Calling this a "bad marriage" is an understatement. She is being forced to be with this man against her own will and would have likely been forced to have sex with him. If she tried the leave him, she would likely be beaten or killed. How is this any different from being kidnapped? I am not condoning the murder of the people who were not involved, but I do feel she is justified in killing her captor.

[ShimmerSwirl]

well I never plan on forcing 14 year old to marry me when I'm 35 if that's what your getting at. if you really think it's that much a stretch for abuse to take place then I hope YOU never get married.

Abuse could take place. Just like abuse could take place in what you would call a 'normal' marriage. I wouldn't want to live in whatever world you would rule, where my partner could legally kill me because they feels like something bad might happen.

[Noomz]

I guess I'm not as flippant as some people when it comes to human life.

If you're a child rapist, you have spent all chance of redemption. You are no longer someone that should be allowed to live.
No, I find human life extremely valuable and precious. So anyone that violates that to such a degree as child rape, has spent all chances and should not be considered humans.
Ofcourse, that's not something you base a justice system on. I understand that. Innocents get hurt. But that doesn't change the fact that all child rapists deserve nothing but death.

[Dunefire]

In her society she was seen as property and was used like a slave....good on her, i dont think that it will end well for her but she made a statement and called some level of attention to a despicable act.

She won't be killed.

Sorry calling like it is.

Bullshit! Shes on a one way trip to a headmans blade or a noose... or worse. There is no sense of fast and painless deaths in mslem socitys unless your a guy then its a gunshot to the head.

[ComputerNerd]

That avatar is a perfect fit

I am not pro "child marriage" but I do not think murder is the solution.

I am curious as to what the solution is.
Common sense, and education are failing to do anything against tradition.
More drastic actions are necessary, for nothing else gets through.

[Noomz]

Abuse could take place. Just like abuse could take place in what you would call a 'normal' marriage. I wouldn't want to live in whatever world you would rule, where my partner could legally kill me because they feels like something bad might happen.

I find it very amusing how you speak of values whilst you seem to promote forced child marriage and child rape.

[Sky High]

Just like abuse could take place in what you would call a 'normal' marriage. I wouldn't want to live in whatever world you would rule, where my partner could legally kill me because they feels like something bad might happen.

the leaps in logic are mind numbing. this didn't take place in america, this was in some backwater country who's culture obviously doesn't value a woman's rights as we do in the "1st" world. when you figure that out get back to me.

[ShimmerSwirl]

If you're a child rapist, you have spent all chance of redemption. You are no longer someone that should be allowed to live.
No, I find human life extremely valuable and precious. So anyone that violates that to such a degree as child rape, has spent all chances and should not be considered humans.
Ofcourse, that's not something you base a justice system on. I understand that. Innocents get hurt. But that doesn't change the fact that all child rapists deserve nothing but death.

This is your opinion, not a fact (fortunately). I believe in mercy, even for those we call the truly vile members of our society.

[derpkitteh]

damn nice. hope they suffered before they died.

[ShimmerSwirl]

the leaps in logic are mind numbing. this didn't take place in america, this was in some backwater country who's culture obviously doesn't value a woman's rights as we do in the "1st" world. when you figure that out get back to me.

And our 'socially advanced' 1st world country apparently hasn't yet learned the value of human life, if you're the representative for us.

Human life > Women's rights

[Deleted]

damn nice. hope they suffered before they died.

Your opinion is of an sociopath.

[Sky High]

And our 'socially advanced' 1st world country apparently hasn't yet learned the value of human life, if you're the representative for us.

Human life > Women's rights

add what a consensual agreement is to list of things you need to learn.

[Deleted]

And our 'socially advanced' 1st world country apparently hasn't yet learned the value of human life, if you're the representative for us.

Human life > Women's rights

What use does life have if you have no rights? If you're nothing more than a man to pleasure himself with, nothing more than something he uses to get kids?

[ShimmerSwirl]

I find it very amusing how you speak of values whilst you seem to promote forced child marriage and child rape.

I have never promoted rape nor would I ever. I think forced marriage is less than ideal and there is a good chance such arrangements will not end well, but it is not an inherently evil institution. I do not believe either one of those acts justifies murder, that is all.

[Noomz]

Yeah, which is why I figured heading straight to the women was more productive. It's too easy to just dismiss the men as pedos or whatever.

Dismiss them as? That is what they are. It's not a matter of point of view. They ARE pedophiles.

If you could respond to the post I wrote and not the one you concocted in fantasyland, that would be swell.

The irony, oh the irony...

[Deleted]

I have never promoted rape nor would I ever. I think forced marriage is less than ideal and there is a good chance such arrangements will not end well, but it is not an inherently evil institution. I do not believe either one of those acts justifies murder, that is all.

Forced marriage is always evil.