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  1. #981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Well my cat jerks my shoulder every day, but I don't consider it rape.

    Just because someone or something starts humping someone out of nowhere, it doesn't make it rape. Rape is when it's forcefully happening and the other one doesn't want it to happen. Spontaneous sex happens a lot in nature, but rape is another thing.
    So you call it spontaneous sex but female ducks even developped a defense against it.

    Ducks, especially mallards, are one of the few species of birds in which males will often rape females, in a violent act which can result in injuries or death by drowning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daws View Post
    Quite surprised at the amount of people who like to make up excuses for why having sex with 14 year old girls (with or without there consent) when you over twice there age is okay. Hopefully there's more than enough real men around here who agree sex should only ever be consensual and never with someone who is still a very young teenage girl and your are old enough to be her father.
    Not that what would likely have followed wouldn't have been rape, but as for as age of consent goes, 14 is legal in quite a few places, including the one country this is about. I don't view "my arbitrary age-limits are arbitrarily a couple of years higher than their arbitrary age-limits" as a very good basis on which to proclaim a moral high-ground. 14 is still distastefully young for my taste, but for me to pretend social conditioning doesn't have a part in why I feel that way would be to just delude myself. I'm also inclined to think it wouldn't even be a question for you if it were a boy that was 14 with an older woman instead.
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    In fact, I quite like it and I would consider it an abuse to inflict my child with a foreskin.
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    You don't appear to understand how it works...they don't stick it on when the baby is born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Ducks, especially mallards, are one of the few species of birds in which males will often rape females, in a violent act which can result in injuries or death by drowning
    I didn't say it doesn't happen. I just say it is rather rare.
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    I didn't say it doesn't happen. I just say it is rather rare.
    Uh, what was this about then?

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    There hasn't been much findings about animals raping each other in the studies afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    Uh, what was this about then?
    "There hasn't been much findings about animals raping each other in the studies afaik."
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  6. #986
    Quote Originally Posted by Goranus View Post
    I Am getting Sick or the crap of all the fools that call the girl in this topic a murder. People get your fucking act together and realise that the fucking laws and crap your have been raised with doesn't matter shit in her situation and the she did the right thing here. She an unique case of a scared and hurt girl who had the strength and courage to do such a thing to her "husband" and his shithead friends. All of you SEXIST and LICK ASSES need to stop saying she should not have done it. So you like all girls and women to obey the law, men and especially their husband and suffer. It that really more Important to you? Is it? because she has killed someone for good or for ill, you bitches see her tainted and that you even have the nerve to say she also DESERVE TO DIE FOR THIS!!!!! by saying all of this shit your effectively taking her tormentors side and advocating Child abuse, Rape, Paedophilia and Oppression of women. Are you proud of yourself for being so "moral", "proper" and "Civilised". good you should be because that shows your more willing to force you stupid and retard opinion on others and shit. truly you people are the "good" ones here with your apathy and the fact your being more worried about murder then the torment or little children.

    If anyone remember watching A Time to Kill with Matthew McConaughey and Samuel L. Jackson. Hope you remember that the court could only empathise with the Father and his raped daughter by hearing the story repeat for the Millionth time with the twist of " now imagine she's white". Think about that you racist scum would your persecute a girl in Europe or America for murdering someone who raped or forced you into a marriage? Would you hate Jaycee Lee Dugard if she fought back and killed Phillip Nancy Garrido during or even before she got abducted? would you call that murder or self-defence? to most of you sexist and ignorant bastard it would would make real difference killing is killing and therefore all murders, sympathetic or not all killing crime is equal to you is it not?

    To all the people who are debating about this atrocity in a civil and coherent matter and about legitimate point and not being insensitive to the horrors of this and or for other sympathetic and altruistic reason I'm sorry for my rant. but for the rest who would rip at me for saying this and pointing out the flaw's in your Ideals. Go ahead, please do.
    before going on a rant at least make it coherent and sensible.

    Maybe it wasn't murder to kill her husband. But was it his fault or her father's. Don't know but because we don't know we have to err on the side of the man because we don't have the facts. So she killed someone who perhaps wasn't guilty. Or do you kill people because of some purported act or perceived guilt?

    As for the friends what guilt did they have? They were having dinner at someone's house. Is it guilt by association now? Are they guilty simply for being part of that culture? Is there any evidence that they did something wrong?

    No the girl murdered 4 people and i hope they apply nigerian sharia on her. the ends are not justified.

  7. #987
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    "There hasn't been much findings about animals raping each other in the studies afaik."
    But there has been. Even among dolphins.

  8. #988
    Quote Originally Posted by Varyk View Post
    You know what murder is right? She murdered 4 people, she is a murderer. Being a supposed victim doesn't absolve you of crime, whether you agree with it or not. Acknowledging isn't defending or condoning. If a woman rapes a guy, and that guys brother rapes her back, they are both rapists, neither is any better than the other.
    So you do not believe that a man or woman has the right to defend themselves from rape or even death?

    That is absolutely correct. Its easy for you to say because you are living in the first world looking into their system. For those people that is the only thing that exists and that is the only thing that they know.
    That's why I'm not celebrating that the girl killed this man. You are absolutely right, from that man's point of view, he probably didn't believe there was anything wrong with what he did, because that's what he's been taught. However, from her point of view, she still feels as if she's been or will soon be forced to have sex. That she potentially may be forced to bear a child as a child, she could face a very real possibility of death. With death from pregnancy being the leading cause of death to girls her age, it's likely she knows someone that happened to.

    It's tragic from all angles.

  9. #989
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    14 people, some of which who are women who likely had no direct involvement with the marriage in a society where women have no voice?
    From stories ive read, the women are nearly as bad as the men. Weather it be psychological abuse or just the despicable treatment of the bride to the point where they are the bottom of the chain of the family and expected to clean and feed the majority of the families (as in brother/sister & mother in laws), and thats before the 'husband' comes into play, I dont see any of them having no direct involvement.

    Granted, thats the stories ive read.

    Regardless, my opinion is 'Good on her'.

  10. #990
    Quote Originally Posted by Caliph View Post
    As for the friends what guilt did they have? They were having dinner at someone's house. Is it guilt by association now? Are they guilty simply for being part of that culture? Is there any evidence that they did something wrong?
    From her point of view, she could have felt that they were celebrating a lifetime of rape for her. How would you feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    But there has been. Even among dolphins.
    As I said, dolphins and ducks. Animals rape, but it is very rare and/or limited to specific species.

    I think the reason to this is because when an animal asks another "sex?" the other one usually doesn't say "no", but "yes, please". Rape doesn't happen if there is no need for rape. It's not a law of nature that animals/humans just want to hurt and rape each other. They do it for the need of sex or procreation. Amongst animals it's probably more of the latter. The basic need for every living thing is to procreate, hence they do it even by force. Usually force isn't needed.
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxi View Post
    Might not have killed anyone, including her husband. Imagine what he would have done to her.
    So now it is ok to harm/kill others just to make sure you kill the original target?

  13. #993
    When you force someone into a situation they desperately don't want to be in, you can't be surprised that they eventually snap and do something drastic.
    Obviously we will never know all facts of this case, but I will take the side of the girl. Losing control of your life at age 14 doesn't sound that great to me. If she was fine with arranged marriage and happy with the situation she wouldn't do this. If she had a chance at running a way, don't you think she would do that? If her husband was innocent and didn't want to be married to her either, don't you think he would have helped to resolve the situation in some way?
    To me it seems like she was desperate for a way out and also found a way out. For her whatever comes after this seemed like a better life than what she had. Doesn't that say something about the situation she was in?

  14. #994
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Arranged marriages are a terrible thing, People call me a cunt and a bigot but I believe in freedom of choice.
    Well...from some of our other conversations I tend to agree with that assesment BUT, in this case you are spot on

  15. #995
    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    But there has been. Even among dolphins.
    8.5 million species on the planet, ~4000 of them rape. Raping in the wild is frequent. Wut?

    While we are on the topic of rape in the wild we should include female Hyenas who are the alphas of their groups and are famous for raping men when their giant clitorises to establish dominance.
    Last edited by Ralgarog; 2014-04-11 at 05:26 PM. Reason: combined number of duck and dolphin is about 4000 unique species.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjau View Post
    When you force someone into a situation they desperately don't want to be in, you can't be surprised that they eventually snap and do something drastic.
    Obviously we will never know all facts of this case, but I will take the side of the girl. Losing control of your life at age 14 doesn't sound that great to me. If she was fine with arranged marriage and happy with the situation she wouldn't do this. If she had a chance at running a way, don't you think she would do that? If her husband was innocent and didn't want to be married to her either, don't you think he would have helped to resolve the situation in some way?
    To me it seems like she was desperate for a way out and also found a way out. For her whatever comes after this seemed like a better life than what she had. Doesn't that say something about the situation she was in?
    No, her actions tell nothing about the situation she was in. They just tell what she did and was capable of doing. She is a murderer and we don't know about her mental status. She probably was psychotic and lunatic in the first place, being forced to marry just didn't make things any better for her.

    This is probably a very similar case to all these school shootings/stabbings.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  17. #997
    Quote Originally Posted by Mooneye View Post
    But there has been. Even among dolphins.
    ..so....that makes it ok? Awesome...you've pissed me off mildly...and since apes kill each other when annoyed, I will now kill you..but since animals do it as well it must be ok right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    ..so....that makes it ok? Awesome...you've pissed me off mildly...and since apes kill each other when annoyed, I will now kill you..but since animals do it as well it must be ok right?
    Now you are barking at the wrong tree. Aim this way.

    EDIT: I don't mean it that I'm pro-rape, but.....oh well, you just pulled a sentence out of it's context
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  19. #999
    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Obviously I would not enjoy it and wouldn't look forward to doing that again. But people do other discomforting things, too, because it's part of life and needs to be done. Like work.
    ..you know..for all my sarcasm and wit..and bantering with Rich...im pretty accepting of opposing viewpoints and opinions. In this case however, I would like to petition a Mod to ban this fucking tard forever, if only for the sole purpose of winning "the stupidest fuck I've ever seen" award.

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    8.5 million species on the planet, ~4000 of them rape. Raping in the wild is frequent. Wut?
    Well, to be fair, most species on the earth are insects and spiders... with both having rather "freaky" mating rituals, often causing the males death. Bees for example regulary exterminate their male population by starving them to death...

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