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Originally Posted by Mooneye
How are they different? In both cases it's the family deciding not the child.
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2014-04-11, 06:15 PM #981The Unstoppable Force
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2014-04-11, 06:15 PM #982Titan
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Ok but this was not an arranged marriage. She was bought recently, not promised 14 years ago. Originally Posted by Puupi
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2014-04-11, 06:15 PM #983DeletedOff with their heads! Originally Posted by vipers
God forbid they don't respect tradition as old as the pyramids, kill them all!
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2014-04-11, 06:15 PM #984The Lightbringer
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Whether it's right or wrong will differ between each individual person; but I personally don't feel like murder is ever justified. The situation for the young girl was grim and there were few alternatives available if she wanted to free herself from the marriage, she would have no doubt suffered a great deal regardless of whatever path she took with this problem, it's just sad that stuff like this has to happen. There really was no way out of this without someone being at the very least, mentally scarred for life.
I'm not sure what my thoughts are on it, I'm happy that she freed herself and that she may have a greatly different future from this point (who knows if it will be better or worse though? As stated before in the thread, in her country she may not really have any ground for her actions), but a number of people still died so... Yeah. Idk. I'm not someone who is able to give a worthy opinion on this topic tbh.Last edited by DechCJC; 2014-04-11 at 06:18 PM.
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2014-04-11, 06:16 PM #985DeletedI never said it was ok. Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer
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2014-04-11, 06:19 PM #986The Unstoppable Force
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It's the same thing. Parents decide who marries who. Originally Posted by Mooneye
How do you know that? And what does "recently" mean? Originally Posted by Tastyfish
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2014-04-11, 06:19 PM #987DeletedBig differences. Originally Posted by Baar
Originally Posted by Mooneye
Are we just gonna ignore that in arranged marriage it happens by the own free will of the people who are going to get married? Originally Posted by Puupi
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2014-04-11, 06:20 PM #988Titan
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Well Originally Posted by Baar
One is an agreement made way ahead of time. Think like Sansa and Joffery in GOT. That was arranged, very clearly so.
IN this region people sell their kids for money and food to older guys so they have food or money, now.
Even tho both require an agreement, or an arrangement if you will, one actually requires more planning, as the child is, less discardable, and relies on good faith of the family to provide a child for the arrangement. The other is like buying a car off the lot."If you want to control people, if you want to feed them a pack of lies and dominate them, keep them ignorant. For me, literacy means freedom." - LaVar Burton.
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2014-04-11, 06:20 PM #989DeletedMost definitely not. Originally Posted by Ralgarog
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2014-04-11, 06:21 PM #990Immortal
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She stood up for herself, and in that culture, that takes no small amount of determination...but reckless killing is not a good idea... It'll probably just make her life even worse.
It's a horrible tradition, and a rather disgusting culture...
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2014-04-11, 06:21 PM #991Pit Lord
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Originally Posted by Baar
Said I was out of here but... Originally Posted by Ralgarog
http://www.shaktiedinburgh.co.uk/arr...arriageyp.html
http://muslimmatters.org/2011/12/22/...rced-marriage/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ethics/forcedmarriage/
https://www.cheshire.police.uk/advic...marriages.aspx
The more you fucking know...Last edited by King Shark; 2014-04-11 at 06:26 PM.
9 out of 10 people agree that in a room full of 10 people one person will always disagree with the other 9.
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2014-04-11, 06:23 PM #992DeletedNo, arranged marriage both partners consent. If there is no consent from both it is a forced marriage on either one part or both parts. Originally Posted by Ralgarog
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2014-04-11, 06:23 PM #993Old God
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This would be a forced marriage. The child had no say in the matter. An arranged marriage (like an o-miai) is where two individuals are brought together, typically chosen by family, to decide if they want to marry. The woman could say no. The man could say no. Likewise they could both say yes. Originally Posted by Ralgarog
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2014-04-11, 06:24 PM #995The Lightbringer
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As long as we go back to ALL the traditions back then...cant do halfway Originally Posted by JeffHast
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2014-04-11, 06:25 PM #996Deleted
I love how everyone condemns these practices as being pedo and disgusting.
It's normal tradition for them and a 14 year old is seen as a grown or "flowered" woman there.
Do i agree with it? No, but i don't think i have the right to really comment on their behaviour, as i have never been to nigeria.
Believe it or not folks, Your opinion isn't always the truth.
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2014-04-11, 06:25 PM #997DeletedI think it's you that have reading problems. Originally Posted by Ralgarog
Arranged marriage should not be confused with the practice of forced marriage such as vani. In an arranged marriage, while the meeting of the spouses is arranged by family members, relatives or friends, the spouses agree of their own free will to marry. By contrast, in a forced marriage, one or both spouses are coerced into the marriage - the union takes place without their freely given consent (under duress, threats, psychological pressure etc).
Read it until you understand it.
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2014-04-11, 06:27 PM #998Old God
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From the article: Originally Posted by Ralgarog
The parents might have agreed to marry the child, but the child had no say. She was forced into it. It was a forced marriage.A 14-year-old girl forced to marry a 35-year-old man in Nigeria prepared a celebratory meal laced with rat poison for her new hubby — killing him and three of his pals.{MMO-Champion General Rules} {Off-Topic Forum Rules} {Video Games Discussion Forum Rules}
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2014-04-11, 06:27 PM #999The Lightbringer
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Uh....I think the boat that carried your understanding of what an arranged marriage is sailed about 3 hours ago....you werent on it...seriously...stop posting..you just make yourself look like a bigger idiot with each one Originally Posted by Mooneye
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2014-04-11, 06:28 PM #1000DeletedHow many times do I have to paste this? Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer
Arranged marriage should not be confused with the practice of forced marriage such as vani. In an arranged marriage, while the meeting of the spouses is arranged by family members, relatives or friends, the spouses agree of their own free will to marry. By contrast, in a forced marriage, one or both spouses are coerced into the marriage - the union takes place without their freely given consent (under duress, threats, psychological pressure etc).
If the spouses aren't free to say no or yes, then it is, by definition, a forced marriage and not an arranged marriage.
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