So basically you came here to whine about dks over others whining for their warriors?
You are comparing different toolkits. I bet warlocks do same on mage forums, or sp's doing the same to warlock and mage forums.
So basically you came here to whine about dks over others whining for their warriors?
You are comparing different toolkits. I bet warlocks do same on mage forums, or sp's doing the same to warlock and mage forums.
There is no Second Wind in WoD, but that you compare Die by the Sword to Icebound Fortitude shows that you have no clue what you are QQing about.
Icebound Fortitude lasts 50% longer and makes you immune to stuns, Die by the Sword gives you 100% parry, all stuns in the game ignore parry and thats what kills you.
But thats not really the problem in WoD, but that they cut utility in half to, including self-healing, DKs has a ton of self healing with Lichborne, Conversion and Death Strike, while Warriors will have nothing at all, its going to be a terrible class for all pvp where you lack a personal heal-bot, i prefer my class to be flexible and balanced in all aspects of pvp, not in a place i dont even set my foot in like 3v3.
Either way, i predict that Gladiator will be the new Warrior pvp spec, as it will have equal dps to the other specs but also strong defensive capabilities with 30% Last Stand, Shield Barrier, 2, 10 yard charges, 20% DR + 40% DR in the form of Demo Shout and Shield Wall, also spammable ranged attack in the form of Heroic Throw and last self healing from Blood Craze.
Oh and it also has a Offensive Dispel with 6s cd.
So better load up on your tears, youll need it as Gladiator will be especially strong vs melee classes and due to how its built will have Rogue like burst dps, that is me disregarding clearly broken glyphs like Incite that give you 3 extra Heroic Strikes for free in the Shield Charge burst window.
You complain that Warriors deal to much damage in Defensive Stance, oh i swear your gonna eat those words, Def stance actually make you lose a significant clunk of your dps, for a Gladiator, they can just pop one of their arsenal of defensive abilities and go to town on you without going defensive at all.
In addition i have absolutely no doubt their going to mess up the pve tanking sets and make them to good in pvp when Protection get a dps spec, beware. As Blizzard loves putting self-healing set bonuses on Warrior tanking gear.
But before you play WoD, let me direct you to this forum. http://www.mmo-champion.com/forums/270-Druid
If you clear your tearducts often on that forum, maybe you will escape the doom that is coming to every class that is not a druid in WoD. *cough* 24s 70% DR *cough*
Last edited by mmocdfdf1a8f27; 2014-04-30 at 10:56 PM.
Wrong on both accounts.
If Prot becomes a "good" PvP spec, in it's current form at least... I will probably stop PvPing. Tanks have no play in anything past 1500 and it's fucking HORRIBLE to meet anyone tryharding as a fucking prot warrior, especially those retarded Boomkin/Prot Warrior twats. Holy shit my blood pressure.
Why would someone that loves prot not being able to pvp? Ppl like yourself is what killed prot pvp out of all classes that can tank, in pvp. Lets not have healers while at it too right? If someone wants to play a tank in pvp they should have the right to do so. They are tanky but they cant kill others, or at least do enough burst dmg.
good. now make shockwave and mass reflect prot too and it might be balanced again
Gladiator stance removes the ability to enter 25%- damage taken def stance, it also wont get Unwavering Sentinel, so the damage taken will be similar to a Warrior in Battle Stance, considering Warriors lose Second Wind, and Prot wont have Die by the Sword, i would rate killing a Gladiator Warrior around the level of a Arms Warrior right now in MoP, while a Arms Warrior in WoD will be the level of a mushroom, free kill for everyone including healers, just like everyone want it.
But then again, you can swap stances out of combat and return to tank stance, meaning you better roll with a balanced group in arena, unless your one of those 2v2 tryhards who roll with healer just to piss everyone off, which in cause, im sure all Warriors would gladly press their gladiator stance button off before arena gates open just for you.