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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    The minimum Wage got filibustered today. That made me a little angry.
    No, a vote to DEBATE the minimum wage hike was filibustered. The republicans don't even want to fucking debate. They are a vacuous bunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    No, a vote to DEBATE the minimum wage hike was filibustered. The republicans don't even want to fucking debate. They are a vacuous bunch.
    Semantics still makes me angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    The vast majority of people know that... the problem is you WANT TO BELIEVE that the other side is nothing more than mouth-breathing brainless fools who think that was somehow a statement from her put into our brains by some conspiratorial mass liberal-media hypnosis. We're not... we know she didn't say that - but that quote perfectly encapsulated the stupidity that is Sarah Palin which is why it resonated so well.
    Larry Crieg never resigned... I don't think most people know that, because the media never had a follow up to his nationally broadcast resignation. It's the perfect example of what media is and the selective memory that it takes to blame agendas. The 'wide stance' shit was due to the sensationalism of it, not that he was a republican. It's why him not resigning didn't have the same attention, because the point isn't to shame a republican, but to exploit sensationalism.

    ACORN was ruled innocent of all charges and the story enirley created by the media. Selective memory is the only reason to blame the media for any agenda, but sensationalism. Not for political reasons, but ratings. Even Rupert Murduch said he would switch to a liberal format, if the ratings justified it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    The minimum Wage got filibustered today. That made me a little angry.
    I don't understand why it's not raised to 9$ an hour. Off topic, but even the CBO being used to disparage the 10.10$ increase, had nothing negative to say about the 9$. Sorry...
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    Yes, Sarah Palin never said you can see Russia from her house. She did, however, claim that she'd be excellent at foreign policy relating to Russia based entirely in the fact you can see one island and a bit of Siberia from parts of Alaska.

    http:// http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Semantics still makes me angry.
    Actually I woudn't say it's semantics in this case - particularly as many conservatives here and in office like to accuse Obama and others of "not wanting to open talks" - particularly when they shut down the government when they didn't like what the original talk produced - and then yet somehow blame Obama for "not wanting to talk" when the time for talk was WAAAAY past then.

    So, yeah - it's not really semantics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    ACORN was ruled innocent of all charges and the story enirley created by the media. Selective memory is the only reason to blame the media for any agenda, but sensationalism. Not for political reasons, but ratings. Even Rupert Murduch said he would switch to a liberal format, if the ratings justified it.
    Now THAT is a quote that I need to see sourced.

    Of course, if it is true - then it's also a clear-cut case that it's showing he's about making himself more rich, NOT about any actual political belief.

    And yeah, that whole ACORN stupidity... people accuse CNN of being biased, but they sure as hell were keeping up with all that ACORN crap when it was clearly just a bunch of hooligans trying to get easy money and those applications were thrown out/rejected. But the Conservatives had to create another mock-scandal just like the whole Bengazi stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    why remove the periods of Clinton and Obama your removing two of the four times democrats was in control of both houses
    your not allowed to remove periods that don't fit your assertion so to make your assertion valid

    if you allowed to remove the period of WW2 as cause for the increase then im allowed to remove the period after WW2 as cause of the decrease we wasn't spending any more to support the war. we were also the only major economy left standing the period after WW2 we had a major increase in GDP and the chart is a comparison of debt to GDP
    Then you're left with an extremely short period that can't imply causation, only correlation.

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