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I see people are unfamiliar with the concept that injecting the proletariat with money ultimately causes that money to be spent on goods and services, creating revenue for businesses and creating demand for more jobs.
Some still operate under the old, tired, false rhetoric that starving people of income will magically make jobs appear, and that the sudden decrease in circulating capital from actually REMOVING the minimum wage will in no way negatively affect people's spending money and thus business income.
Laugh.
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
It's like this weird paradox. "We don't want people to be on government assistance" and "We don't want people to be paid a wage where they can take care of themselves without government assistance".
It's as if sociopathy is more prevalent than we thought, and some people just simply want to watch ghettos, shanties, nobility, and peasantry to all become things again.
“Terrible things are happening outside. Poor helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are torn apart. Men, women, and children are separated. Children come home from school to find that their parents have disappeared.”
Diary of Anne Frank
January 13, 1943
$425 won't even get you a single room rental with a shared bathroom and no kitchen facilities where I live. The bare minimum for a studio in a part of town I wouldn't even drive through let alone live in is ~$900. That's just for the walls, electricity, water, sewer and trash pick up are all extra.
Good luck affording that on $7.25/hr.
terrible decision by a terrible party, we need to stop acting like we are surprised. really if these clowns could they would lower it to 1 cent an hour and they would still have idiots around bitching it is to high it needs to be lowered
10.45 per hour here.
I think our PPP is about 85% to USD right now (Correct me if I'm wrong) which is equivalent to roughly 8.80 USD.
So theoretically Canada's "mostly 10 "is kind of low vs. the proposed increase to 10 in the US.
If the US was at 10 then that should translate to increasing to an average minimum wage of 11.75 across Canada.
Being unskilled _is_ a choice. Who is prevented from learning a trade? There still exist numerous jobs in trade fields in the US which are not being filled today. That said, I don't believe that raising the min. wage is the answer, but I don't know what the answer is either. Manufacturing used to support a huge portion of US workers and no longer does today. It's ma hard problem, not everyone can work white collar engineering/sales/management/whatever jobs.
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This is cute. You're cute. You're also evidently retarded- so it'd never work between us.
There are people out there who are working two full-time minimum wage (or close enough to Min. Wage,) jobs so that they can pay for certifications and credit hours, because having a skill set doesn't get you hired in this day and age- the papers to prove it do, and those papers cost more than just time. I'm sure those people would appreciate the added padding.
Which is why I find your absurd level of mental deficiency almost enchanting- you've almost achieved a lemming level of stupid.
I hope you get hit by a truck when you next walk out the door.
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Last edited by Endus; 2014-04-30 at 09:28 PM.
I'm personally hesitant to take the line that it is better for the economy that you increase the minimum wage. I would rather that effort be spent on getting those who are low wage earners trained with marketable skills so that they employment potential goes up and they are lifted out of minimum wage by training.
Case in point: Place I worked at before was a customer service center, doing back office work. One of the women I work with was a late 30-something college graduate with a business degree. She made about 31k a year at her current job. The entire office was shut down and she lost her job. She filed for a retraining grant, got a CDL and now makes 72k a year. I saw her a few months ago, driving a new car, and fairly happy, though she went from working 38 hours a week (long story don't ask) to 65 hours a week.
I personally would rather that the government work through business that only pay their workers minimum wage and though private or public social workers find ways of training each one with marketable skills to increase their earning potential.
Which works better for the economy. Getting a guy who current makes $7.25 an hour, working 40 hours a week($290 a week), but who will be at that spot forever because he has no other skills or training someone to be say a plumber, electrician, CDL truck driver or some other skilled labor field, where he makes $15-18 an hour, working 50+ hours a week ($825 a week, at $15 an hour with OT after 40).
Just checking my towns classifieds we have 8 CDL positions, 10-15 oilfield specialized positions, two IT positions and a bilingual sales position. Lowest wage is one of the IT positions at 40 grand a year salary. Common denominator? Skilled labor each one of them.
I got a 2% pay boost.... (before taxes!)
Alright, for the last time.
Increasing people's qualifications simply saturates the market, meaning qualified workers end up doing minimum wage jobs with no net change.
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Education in the US is for-pay. If you come from a low income background then chances are you'll stay that way.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
10.25 an hour here in Canada with 1BR rent ranging from 1k to 1.6k a month.
If you make minimum wage you should be living with roommates or co-dependents. It is a bullshit argument to say my rent is 1000 a month, I need wages raised. Living beyond your means is what put the U.S into an economic mess.
Actually, no. There's more unemployed people than there are job openings in basically every sector. And construction is one of the bad sectors as that goes, with about 8 unemployed for every job opening.
http://stateofworkingamerica.org/cha...s-by-industry/
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