Republicans successfully block minimum wage bill

[moremana]

Are you pro-welfare? Cause you can either pay people enough to live, provide them welfare, or let them die. Most people consider the third choice bad, but let us know how you feel.

Welfare has nothing to do with the min wage. Well, let me rephrase that, a 25 year old high school drop out with 4 kids making 8 bucks an hour at McD's, yes welfare pertains to him/her.

However, the welfare system wasnt designed for these people, it was designed to help people out short term, not for life!

Now, is the min wage to low, yes, but a 30% increase? I would agree that maybe $8.75 is a good number.

Those low paying jobs were meant for young people living at home or in college, not a family.

[Muzjhath]

Welfare has nothing to do with the min wage. Well, let me rephrase that, a 25 year old high school drop out with 4 kids making 8 bucks an hour at McD's, yes welfare pertains to him/her.

However, the welfare system wasnt designed for these people, it was designed to help people out short term, not for life!

Now, is the min wage to low, yes, but a 30% increase? I would agree that maybe $8.75 is a good number.

Those low paying jobs were meant for young people living at home or in college, not a family.

So I take it you're pro-welfare for people working fulltime as well as pro corporate welfare so the corporations can profit from low-wage takers by having the government make sure that their workers don't die?
Otherwise you should be pro a livable minimum wage. Which is in most places of the USA above 10.10 an hour.

[Endus]

So it never has diminishing returns? It just causes economic chaos at some point? What point is that, or where does that tie into your formula?

You're being deliberately disingenuous, and I'm not going to play that game. If you'd like to have a reasonable discussion, kindly rephrase your questions to not be baiting and deliberately obtuse.

[RaoBurning]

Welfare has nothing to do with the min wage. Well, let me rephrase that, a 25 year old high school drop out with 4 kids making 8 bucks an hour at McD's, yes welfare pertains to him/her.

However, the welfare system wasnt designed for these people, it was designed to help people out short term, not for life!

This is a fantastic argument for raising the minimum wage high enough that full time employees don't need to be on/qualify for public assistance.

Now, is the min wage to low, yes, but a 30% increase? I would agree that maybe $8.75 is a good number.

52 weeks a year, 40 hours a week, 8.75 an hour = 18,200 before taxes. I guess that's pretty good, if you never miss a day, take a vacation, and can find an employer that will give those hours regularly.

Those low paying jobs were meant for young people living at home or in college, not a family.

It has been previously demonstrated that this claim is erroneous. There's a really neat graph floating around on some previous page or another.

[Cthulhu 2020]

As has been pointed out, it is mathematically impossible for prices to rise faster than buying power. This whole "a wage increase wouldn't matter cause everything would cost more!" Has been proven false time and again. It is basic grade school math.

[Adam Jensen]

So then why not make the minimum wage $50? If its always true than it would lead to an increase in prices and an even bigger increase in purchasing power. Why stop at $10?

Oh because this point hasn't been argued ad nauseum in the past 90 pages.

Because there is a point where raising the minimum wage gets excessive. That point is well above the rate that the Democrats were suggesting.

Fucking pisses me off that people come in here and try to make a point that has been argued just about on every single page of this thread. Read the damn thread, at least some of it.

[Espe]

Oh because this point hasn't been argued ad nauseum in the past 90 pages.

Because there is a point where raising the minimum wage gets excessive. That point is well above the rate that the Democrats were suggesting.

Fucking pisses me off that people come in here and try to make a point that has been argued just about on every single page of this thread. Read the damn thread, at least some of it.

But then how would they stick to their Faux News talking points?