Locks have been broken for this whole expansion
they either did really good/ highdamage, or low LOW damage
They either had too many self heals or died to quickly.
They either had to many CC's not on DR with anything else, or they had nothing
Being able to switch is one of the reasons I love warlocks, it is however a problem. If blizzard balances each spec around it's strengths then it screws over warlocks don't that play multiple specs. If blizzard doesn't balance around specs strengths then warlocks switch spec depending on the fight and are OP. To fix this blizzard should make the gearing priorities very different for each other (like mages) so warlocks can't switch so easily (and if they do are underperforming for that spec).
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I wouldn't say OP unless you are talking about multidot fights. I know lots of other classes can keep up and even surpass us on lots of single target fights. Multidot....no contest.
Ah, I can't wait until we get back to the community-accepted status quo of Mages being miles ahead of everyone else again.
It's pretty freakin' amazing how big the gap between Destro Lock and Fire Mage is at the moment. You would think the two specs should be tuned pretty similarly.
LOL.
1: You link spoil logs when I talk about protectors?? Thats certainly a new way to try to disprove someone talking about protectors, and yes I suppose unholys do fall behind, but no looking at 10H protectors frost has very comparable logs to destruction, within 20k.
2: I never once implied that, I have since the beginning been saying that affliction won't be broken in WoD since everyone is screaming it needs nerfs because they don't know how it works now.
3: Yes I believe fire isn't exactly working as intended atm(thank u for pointing that out), so point being they perform well in all situations in every spec, that very much plays to my benefit in the original argument that warlocks were apparently broke from performing any fight well between just 2 specs.
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Why? Just because they are based around fire elements doesn't mean they have to perform in the sameway, do you expect frost dks and frost mages to perform the same way?
sometimes im on top of the ranks as a lock, but not by very much. i have 3 hunters in my guild and a boomkin. sometimes the boomy is on top. i have no idea why maybe hes just a super good player. but we are all approx 575-578 ilvl so it cant be much difference. anyway.
one could say the same about hunters being op, they can use any skill while moving so.. ya.. how about that. affliction might be a lil op atm, but its getting toned down in WoD so who cares.
Have your frost mage talk to me. I won't get him up to the warlock's DPS because they're broken. However, he should be much closer than what you suggest.
He also shouldn't be stacking mastery.
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Much better to look at affliction.
http://www.proraiders.com/ranks/persecond.php?rp=1&spec=Affliction_Warlock
As if averaged DPS means anything.
Warlocks are very strong but its not so much their dps that makes them so strong. On singletarget there are plenty of classes that both keep up and beat them.
Warriors, ferals, mages, shaman, rogues etc. It's their insane utility, insane survivabilty and mobility with zero drawbacks and broken aoe.
Like others have said, your lock just happen to be the best dps player you have, im sure he would beat everyone else playing another class equally skillful.
Start logging fights and see how the rest of your team measures up against others of their respective spec and compare how the warlock is doing, sadly, im afraid you'll find out most of them are playing shit, if its that big discrepancy between them.
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I don't see how either you or the guy I responded to deserved a more in-depth analysis/proof for Fire in full gear being perfectly comparable with Destruction on most fights. As previous posted stated it's obviously Affliction with the retardedly broken Soul Swap mechanic that is the problem. Warlock/Mage/Hunter have an almost even race on most fights if we ignore Affliction's Soul Swap abuse.
Yes, warlocks are OP.. first single target.. first cleave.. and first multidot..
+ all the raid utility..
They should be nerfed!
This, soul swap is unarguably broken as hell.
On everyone complaining about Destruction's AoE being broken - consider an Elemental Shaman that can destroy the meters on Galakras (for example) with ~70% damage coming from Chain Lightning. Destruction does get pretty strong when you have enough targets to cap out on ember regen, but still requires quite a bit of Shadowburn sniping + Havoc to be superior, compared to a single button spam.
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