Chinese president says America should "stay out of Asia"

[Machismo]

This threat demonstrates the utter stupidity in assuming that people and countries should choose sides. There is nothing more foolish than those who choose to perpetuate ignorance.

[mikeakanice]

Get your head out of the 19th century and understand that we live in a post-industrial society here.

And understand that since that era we haven't found a way to properly fix unemployment without creating 19th century jobs. In which those are going overseas.

[Elegiac]

And understand that since that era we haven't found a way to properly fix unemployment without creating 19th century jobs. In which those are going overseas.

1) Service jobs.

2) Unemployment is endemic in a market economy, we understand that now.

3) If not now this problem would be popping up eventually either way.

[mikeakanice]

1) Service jobs.

2) Unemployment is endemic in a market economy, we understand that now.

3) If not now this problem would be popping up eventually either way.

Would you define service jobs so I can properly retort please. (not being sarcastic just want to make sure I understand correctly.)

[Elegiac]

Would you define service jobs so I can properly retort please. (not being sarcastic just want to make sure I understand correctly.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiar...of_the_economy

[mikeakanice]

And that is what the Japanese are trying to do with all the Robot improvements, or did u think they are making all that hard work ust to have sex with ....ehhh wait

I say the latter and god bless them for doing so.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiar...of_the_economy

Okay, I would say that while some of those jobs such as mining are disappearing, (Don't quite understand and am not knowledgeable enough to know how fishing is losing jobs) those numbers aren't anywhere near as high as the numbers we lose each year to outsourcing. In 2013 alone the U.S lost an estimated 2.3 million jobs to outsourcing and that number is expected to continue (http://www.statisticbrain.com/outsourcing-statistics-by-country/). Which is why getting those jobs back would dramatically improve our unemployment. I mean think about how the economy would improve if we brought back 2.3 millions jobs.

I do see your point though. Although I think jobs that we are going to lose to automation haven't quite become as dramatic as outsourcing. It will be an issue in the not to distant future and could potentially collapse the world economy if we can't figure out where to employ people who once held those jobs.

[Elegiac]

Okay, I would say that while some of those jobs such as mining are disappearing, (Don't quite understand and am not knowledgeable enough to know how fishing is losing jobs) those numbers aren't anywhere near as high as the numbers we lose each year to outsourcing. In 2013 alone the U.S lost an estimated 2.3 million jobs to outsourcing and that number is expected to continue (http://www.statisticbrain.com/outsou...cs-by-country/). Which is why getting those jobs back would dramatically improve our unemployment. I mean think about how the economy would improve if we brought back 2.3 millions jobs.

Full employment is largely a myth in peacetime, so it's unlikely that would decrease unemployment by a significant margin (especially given wage suppression and the spike in cost of living in the interim).

I do see your point though. Although I think jobs that we are going to lose to automation haven't quite become as dramatic as outsourcing. It will be an issue in the not to distant future and could potentially collapse the world economy if we can't figure out where to employ people who once held those jobs.

The issue is that the low skill people who should have been working in positions like cashiers are being displaced by a glut of overqualified individuals who cannot find jobs due to low demand. If demand were increased (by shifting the tax burden and increasing wages) then a lot more middle and upper middle class service jobs would be created, opening the low skill jobs to people who formerly worked in things like manufacturing.

[Collegeguy]

That's all cool as long as China leaves Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and all the other asian allies alone.

[Grand Crusader Absalom]

Why can't countries be pro-themselves instead of picking US, china or Russia.

[Elegiac]

Why can't countries be pro-themselves instead of picking US, china or Russia.

There are significant economic and strategic benefits to aligning yourself with one of the great powers.

[zolok2.0]

The butthurt is strong in this thread.

On topic, I say let all the asians kill eachother off. Especially Japan. Kill Japan.

[Collegeguy]

Why can't countries be pro-themselves instead of picking US, china or Russia.

Alliances have been around for thousands of years. Might as well ask why the sun rises in the morning.

[tylenol]

Known US military bases, GL with that china, learn how to make "friends" so you can actually dock in Australia and maybe next time a plane goes missing you'll have somewhere for your ships

[GennGreymane]

http://www.asiancenturyinstitute.com...o-stay-in-asia

just one country that wants us to stay, along with Japan, South Korea, Vietnam (to an extent), Thailand, and a few others. Many are very wary of China.

[Dreknar20]

Why can't countries be pro-themselves instead of picking US, china or Russia.

because if your a crappy small country you will always be under the wing of a major/world power

[prwraith]

The same way anyone comes with such a list, compiling facts, trade agreements, defense treaties, governmental sentiments, etc.

Try educating yourself: https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...orld-factbook/

I'd put dollars to donuts you didn't compile jack shit.

What you did was look at any country that has had a positive reaction ever at any point even once in their history and said they're pro US.

[Notchris]

the 1800s telegraphed. They said they want their isolationism back.

whoooooosh!

[xylophone]

The butthurt is strong in this thread.

On topic, I say let all the asians kill eachother off. Especially Japan. Kill Japan.

But what about my animes!

[FeedsOnDevTears]

The whole point behind outsourcing it's that it is more cost effective from a labor standpoint. If outsourcing were not a thing there would be a much greater incentive to mechanize domestic production (assuming of course that wage labor remains high value).

The problem with outsourcing is that its an end-run around labor law. The US has decided that certain working standards regarding wages and conditions need to be met. The corporate solution is naturally, move the work elsewhere so long as its profitable to do so.

[Elegiac]

The problem with outsourcing is that its an end-run around labor law. The US has decided that certain working standards regarding wages and conditions need to be met. The corporate solution is naturally, move the work elsewhere so long as its profitable to do so.

Which is problematic, but ultimately beneficial in the long run in the countries where outsourcing is received since it promotes economic growth and stability.