More Men Raped Than Women (Prison Statistics) According to Justice Department

[Coryam]

Than =! Then

Unfortunately, your loss of credibility starts even before you finish your title.

Regardless, these are two very different types of statistics. Prison is a very different place than the free world where people have rights. Rape in prison is not the same as rape outside of prison and never will be.

[Felya]

Arguing about who is currently taking home the gold in the Victimization Olympics is great and all, but how about we talk about all of the nifty ways this problem could be solved?

How do you rehab or convince inmates who have nothing to lose, to stop raping? Adding 50 years to lifers or near lifers, won't help...

[Mihalik]

Yeah, and right below that is the estimates.

You lack reading comprehension.

The 800,000 number refers to NUMBER OF RAPES, NOT number of victims.

The number of victims in 1995 was 300,000.

Read again please. The current DoJ prison rape number SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS that it refers to NUMBER OF VICTIMS not number of RAPES.

[prwraith]

Arguing about who is currently taking home the gold in the Victimization Olympics is great and all, but how about we talk about all of the nifty ways this problem could be solved?

I said that earlier but people are to busy arguing over the misleading title and who gets raped more men or women.

I've just started watching the thread and shaking my head every few posts

[Felya]

Regardless, these are two very different types of statistics. Prison is a very different place than the free world where people have rights. Rape in prison is not the same as rape outside of prison and never will be.

People in prison have a right to not be raped...

[prwraith]

How do you rehab or convince inmates who have nothing to lose, to stop raping? Adding 50 years to lifers or near lifers, won't help...

I think if you're caught committing a crime like rape in prison you should be given life in solitary. With 0 access to other human beings outside of a meal slot and guards watching you run around a yard

[Deleted]

You lack reading comprehension.

The 800,000 number refers to NUMBER OF RAPES, NOT number of victims.

The number of victims in 1995 was 300,000.

Read again please. The current DoJ prison rape number SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS that it refers to NUMBER OF VICTIMS not number of RAPES.

You could always assume that all those 300,000 women were raped 2.9 times.

[Mihalik]

Than =! Then

Unfortunately, your loss of credibility starts even before you finish your title.

Regardless, these are two very different types of statistics. Prison is a very different place than the free world where people have rights. Rape in prison is not the same as rape outside of prison and never will be.

Holy shit. I made a grammar mistake. Please crucify me!

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You could always assume that all those 300,000 women who did report being raped, were raped 2.9 times.

According to your study, yes. Alas the 300,000 number is severely outdated.

When it comes to rape, the numbers look even better: from 1980 to 2005, the estimated number of sexual assaults in the US fell by 85 percent. Scholars attribute this stunning collapse to various factors, including advances in gender equality, the abortion of unwanted children, and the spread of internet pornography.

2008 DoJ report put the number at 213000.

[bison91]

ofc there is...in america men like more man then woman...there are more gays then real men

[theostrichsays]

Arguing about who is currently taking home the gold in the Victimization Olympics is great and all, but how about we talk about all of the nifty ways this problem could be solved?

I vote all men sew their buttholes up and wear colostomy bags. That should help the mens numbers, as far as women not sure what to suggest.

[Anonymous1038853]

That was extremely disturbing to read. I also find myself perturbed by some of the responses in this thread.

[Felya]

I think if you're caught committing a crime like rape in prison you should be given life in solitary. With 0 access to other human beings outside of a meal slot and guards watching you run around a yard

I don't think that's logistically possible. It would mean 216000 solitary sells have to be built in our already over crowded prisons. Judging OPs numbers on face value...

[MinTDH]

Prison is a very different place than the free world where people have rights. Rape in prison is not the same as rape outside of prison and never will be.

People in prison are still people, no matter what they've done.

[Deleted]

Well, for starters, the guards could stop letting it slide, encouraging it or even participating in it and do their jobs.

The guards are underpaid, overworked, and often assaulted or spat upon (Or having bodily fluids thrown at them).

To encourage the guards to actually look out for the inmates, you'd need to incentivize that.

[Deleted]

Prison culture in USA is fucked up.

[Felya]

Well, for starters, the guards could stop letting it slide, encouraging it or even participating in it and do their jobs.

The issue there is that prisons are usually understaffed, while many states have budget deficits. I'm not suggesting Arizona's privatized prisons as a solution...

[Deleted]

The entire prison system needs reform.

Justice system, could start with not throwing just about anyone into prison when they commit the slightest of crimes. Probation, house arrest and/or fines for the smaller crimes, such as smoking pot.

[Deleted]

The entire prison system needs reform.

That i completely agree upon, to do that, it requires a public shift in opinion on inmates.

And at best, it's active dislike and mistrust; At worse, as experienced in this very thread, people wishing death and fruitless lives on them.

Some 19 year old who has a record of petty theft whilst attending college could be sent to prison for up to 5 years, dependent on state, his qualification?

A P.H.D from a first rate institution of criminals, on how to be a criminal.

[Felya]

Justice system, could start with not throwing just about anyone into prison when they commit the slightest of crimes. Probation, house arrest and/or fines for the smaller crimes, such as smoking pot.

Smoking pot is illegal? You should move...

[Velaniz]

I would like you to take a moment and think about this. The human race has been able to accomplish everything that is has so far because of reproduction. The more of us that there are, the higher chances that another Einstein or any other smart scientist will be born. Even one person not reproducing could lead to a scientific discovery taking many more years. For all we know, gays might be the key to the next straight step in evolution genetically speaking (smarter humans) . Reproducing, however, also means that there are chances that a new Hitler will appear.

This isn't any kind of argument. What about people who get married but don't have kids? What about people who get married but don't have enough kids? What about lesbians who get married and conceive babies anyways through sperm donors. What about gays who adopt? Terrible argument.

So you are saying that gays aren't normal? I don't get it. I think you misunderstood what I was saying. It is the media and society who are forcing this point of view, just as society and the media eventually forced white people to put up with black people. I'm not saying that either is right or wrong. I am just saying that if as an individual, if a person doesn't agree with the rest of the society and the "new" rules of acceptance, then they are the ones that have to deal with the consequences. For example, 30 years ago, gays weren't as publicly open about their choices. If a person was to bring up the topic in a conversation, the majority of people would agree or at least find it difficult to understand. Nowadays, if the same is discussed, whether you don't agree or even don't understand what's going on with gays, if you don't "accept" them, then the sheep are going to shun you. Even if some of the flock agree with that person. They just want to fit in so they don't speak up against gays as openly as they would have been able to 30 years ago.

Shunned as they rightfully should be, fucking bigots that they are.

It is done because it has been seen as normal since men and women could express themselves and appreciate the better qualities of the opposite sex. Nature has provided us and animals with a male and female in order to reproduce and survive as individual races. As a race, in terms of survival, in the animal kingdom, gay behavior has little to zero benefit for the race. Of course, in the case of humans, regardless of sexual preference, a person might be able to come up with the most intelligent thought since the beginning of time. But if society was to teach children from a very early stage that homosexuality was okay (for the survival of the race) then we would go extinct in a matter of millennia. Without having a constant "supply" of babies, societies would die in less than 4 generations.

This is just a rehash of the same stuff above. Accepting gays =/= human extinction, not by a damn sight. Reproduction honestly has nothing to do with anything here. That you would even try and twist it into being a consideration is just a poor, thinly-veiled attempt at rationalizing homophobia.

I do believe that it is being forced. Not accepting gays is now seen as abnormal, or at the very least, as a not being a very accepting individual. You are immediately singled out from the flock and label a bigot, gay hater, and so on. In order to maintain a place in society, a person must pretend to enjoy or accept gays around him/her. Gays have won, they are socially accepted even if individually they are secretly loathed.

Good for gays, then. Glad to hear intolerance toward bigotry is growing.